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Wolves and Livestock:The Never Ending Battle
idahohuntr:
No wolf hunting in wyoming in 2014 and lack of wolves in Utah or even southern idaho is not because of some invisible rancher fence.
idahohuntr:
--- Quote from: bearpaw on June 01, 2015, 02:09:49 AM ---In areas that wolves inhabit it's not a question of "Will they kill livestock?" the qustion is "How soon will they kill? and/or "How many times will they kill before they have to be removed?"
While Idahohntr was busy calling Dr Kay clueless, wolves were busy proving Dr Kay's is spot on regarding wolf impacts on livestock! :chuckle:
--- Quote ---Local wolf pack takes sheep herd
May 26, 2015 WEI
In the evenings, Janet and Buol Heslin can sit on their back porch in Alta and watch wolves emerge from the nearby national forest. The couple has raised sheep for the last 10 years and the last seven on their farm in Wyoming, and they’ve had a few problems with wolves.
http://tinyurl.com/o93r4xr
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You are calling kay an expert because he said wolves will eat livestock?
WAcoyotehunter:
--- Quote from: idahohuntr on June 01, 2015, 06:21:09 AM ---No wolf hunting in wyoming in 2014 and lack of wolves in Utah or even southern idaho is not because of some invisible rancher fence.
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right.
wolfbait:
--- Quote from: WAcoyotehunter on June 01, 2015, 07:06:23 AM ---
--- Quote from: idahohuntr on June 01, 2015, 06:21:09 AM ---No wolf hunting in wyoming in 2014 and lack of wolves in Utah or even southern idaho is not because of some invisible rancher fence.
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right.
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So tell us who holds the USFWS or state game agencies accountable do to wolf predation besides ranchers?
Look at the Lolo elk herd as an example of accountability by IDFG. Look how long it took before IDFG was forced to admit wolves were the reason for the decline of the Lolo herd. And even when they had a chance to kill more wolves to help the herd Unsworth refuse, saying it wouldn't matter. One wolf will kill 20+ elk per year.
"Department director Jim Unsworth told the advisory group it will take time to see how wolves affect different aspects of the Washington landscape compared to previous wolf introductions in Idaho, Montana and Wyoming."
I think hunters should tie in with the ranchers over the wolf issue as their interests are basically the same concerning wolf control.
There will be the usual number of fools who believe groups like CNW, DoW, Sierra Club and HSUS support hunters and ranchers in WA, but not many people are easily fooled after the bogus wolf plan.
"Yes, hunter's interests are represented well in the group. I spoke with every member there, and spent extra time talking to the members from CNW, DofW, Sierra Club, and HSUS. 3 of these members grew up in and understand our hunting heritage, and are not opposed to hunting personally or as a representative of their group. The other member has never been exposed to hunting, but is not against hunting at all."
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,174866.100.html
WAcoyotehunter:
OK- I get that ranchers want wolves controlled, and I get that hunters want wolves controlled. As groups (hunters:ranchers) we seem to have few other common interests. If hunters and ranchers can work together for wolf control, that's great. We should. But we should also recognize that Ranchers and Hunters have different interests for wolf management. The end result might look the same, but the motivations are clearly different.
To say that ranchers are the reason there are no wolves in Colorado and Utah is disingenuous and helps the writer lose credibility right of the bat.
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