What do you think of this Muley? Score and age class?

[.257mag]

This buck is either A) mounting a doe as we speak. OR B) in someones freezer.  Kind of a win win.  We should almost start a new thread and make it a poll.

[Karl Blanchard]

And that is unfortunate.

Its not unfortunate, its life.  Lots of folks out there that are completely full of bull crap.  Heck I ran into a guy in the elk woods this year that beat feet over to me to talk to me.  I think we have all ran into this guy   300 yard shots with his ball and patch pistol, 3 bucks from Dayton the last 5 years that that were over 40" wide, a day of coyote hunting where he had to resort to his sidearm to fend off the wave of dogs.  21 dead coyotes when the smoke settled to be exact.  For all I know this guy could be anyone of a lot of people on this very site.  Sorry, but I'm not believing the stories he told, regardless not having a prior reason to not believe him.

Disclaimer:  I am in know way referring to specific individuals in this post, it is a generalization of a good portion of society as a whole.  Well except for the guy I was describing, he was completely full of it

[OutHouse]

The only scored antler set that I have seen was actually similar to this beast you have on camera. It was scored right under 200: I think 196 if my memory serves me correct. But it is hard to estimate of course.

[M_ray]

And that is unfortunate.

Its not unfortunate, its life.  Lots of folks out there that are completely full of bull crap.  Heck I ran into a guy in the elk woods this year that beat feet over to me to talk to me.  I think we have all ran into this guy   300 yard shots with his ball and patch pistol, 3 bucks from Dayton the last 5 years that that were over 40" wide, a day of coyote hunting where he had to resort to his sidearm to fend off the wave of dogs.  21 dead coyotes when the smoke settled to be exact.  For all I know this guy could be anyone of a lot of people on this very site.  Sorry, but I'm not believing the stories he told, regardless not having a prior reason to not believe him.

Disclaimer:  I am in know way referring to specific individuals in this post, it is a generalization of a good portion of society as a whole.  Well except for the guy I was describing, he was completely full of it

Your comparison and what Mtmuley said are miles apart so again I would say I think most are smart enough to find some even ground. Look I don't know where anyone said that his word has to be the gospel other than you but I think there is a great difference in the way you are trying to explain things and they way it actually went down. No one said to go through your life being naive but going through it as if everyone is unbelievable first is something I for one am not going to do, I respect how you do it its just not my way 

[Karl Blanchard]

Its an exaggeration of a point.  Believing someone you don't know.  Of course they aren't identical.

It comes back to believing people that you do not know.  If I had a relationship with a good deer, and someone I don't know just says, ya he's dead, and then nothing more?  I would question that and would want to see proof.  Pretty good odds you would do the same if roles were reversed.  Am I wrong?

[2labs]

Almost 12 pages!! You can do it!

[M_ray]

Its an exaggeration of a point.  Believing someone you don't know.  Of course they aren't identical.

It comes back to believing people that you do not know.  If I had a relationship with a good deer, and someone I don't know just says, ya he's dead, and then nothing more?  I would question that and would want to see proof.  Pretty good odds you would do the same if roles were reversed.  Am I wrong?

No, your right I would ask ... but if the guy doesnt want to let on any more information I am not going to go look for the rope and a good hangin branch at that point either 

[Karl Blanchard]

Its an exaggeration of a point.  Believing someone you don't know.  Of course they aren't identical.

It comes back to believing people that you do not know.  If I had a relationship with a good deer, and someone I don't know just says, ya he's dead, and then nothing more?  I would question that and would want to see proof.  Pretty good odds you would do the same if roles were reversed.  Am I wrong?

No, your right I would ask ... but if the guy doesnt want to let on any more information I am not going to go look for the rope and a good hangin branch at that point either 

  exactly!  That's what I'm saying.  I never went for the rope in this thread.  In fact I stated multiple times, I have no dog in the fight, and neither side is wrong or right. 

[steeliedrew]

Almost 12 pages!! You can do it!

Maybe this post will tip us into 12 

Edit: no such luck.

[runamuk]

Its an exaggeration of a point.  Believing someone you don't know.  Of course they aren't identical.

It comes back to believing people that you do not know.  If I had a relationship with a good deer, and someone I don't know just says, ya he's dead, and then nothing more?  I would question that and would want to see proof.  Pretty good odds you would do the same if roles were reversed.  Am I wrong?

No, your right I would ask ... but if the guy doesnt want to let on any more information I am not going to go look for the rope and a good hangin branch at that point either 

And if I was truly interested I might ask in private you know via PM's and not make a giant production openly leading to a circus with monkeys and stuff. 

now back to it guys

[huntnphool]

Its an exaggeration of a point.  Believing someone you don't know.  Of course they aren't identical.

It comes back to believing people that you do not know.  If I had a relationship with a good deer, and someone I don't know just says, ya he's dead, and then nothing more?  I would question that and would want to see proof.  Pretty good odds you would do the same if roles were reversed.  Am I wrong?

 Steele, just take BLR's opinion and move forward believing that buck is still alive, problem solved.

[steeliedrew]

Steele, just take BLR's opinion and move forward believing that buck is still alive, problem solved.

I'm really not worried about him being dead or alive. Curious? you betcha. Would I like to see a pic. Yep. but life goes on and I'll be back on good bucks in 2016. 

[Jonathan_S]

And that is unfortunate.

Its not unfortunate, its life.  Lots of folks out there that are completely full of bull crap.  Heck I ran into a guy in the elk woods this year that beat feet over to me to talk to me.  I think we have all ran into this guy   300 yard shots with his ball and patch pistol, 3 bucks from Dayton the last 5 years that that were over 40" wide, a day of coyote hunting where he had to resort to his sidearm to fend off the wave of dogs.  21 dead coyotes when the smoke settled to be exact.  For all I know this guy could be anyone of a lot of people on this very site.  Sorry, but I'm not believing the stories he told, regardless not having a prior reason to not believe him.

Nice to meet you this fall, if you ever want any more muzzle-loading tips, let me know.  Did you ever get an elk?  Man I arrowed a 400" last day bull then had to run up a tree to keep his big brother from goring me.  Crazy stuff...well pretty average day of hunting for me but still you get what I mean.

[Karl Blanchard]

Its an exaggeration of a point.  Believing someone you don't know.  Of course they aren't identical.

It comes back to believing people that you do not know.  If I had a relationship with a good deer, and someone I don't know just says, ya he's dead, and then nothing more?  I would question that and would want to see proof.  Pretty good odds you would do the same if roles were reversed.  Am I wrong?

 Steele, just take BLR's opinion and move forward believing that buck is still alive, problem solved.

boy I would have to go read back through but I'm fairly certain I never once said it was dead or alive. I merely stated that IF IT WAS ME PERSONALLY I would need further closer than just some strangers word. Why is this so hard to understand? I have no side to take.  I would no sooner beieve steeliedrew''s word as I would MM.  Nothing against them but they are 100% complete strangers TO  ME.  It would be like you posting pics from your montana trip and then me saying, ya that buck is dead.  Pretty sure you wouldn't believe me.  Am I wrong?

[Karl Blanchard]

And that is unfortunate.

Its not unfortunate, its life.  Lots of folks out there that are completely full of bull crap.  Heck I ran into a guy in the elk woods this year that beat feet over to me to talk to me.  I think we have all ran into this guy   300 yard shots with his ball and patch pistol, 3 bucks from Dayton the last 5 years that that were over 40" wide, a day of coyote hunting where he had to resort to his sidearm to fend off the wave of dogs.  21 dead coyotes when the smoke settled to be exact.  For all I know this guy could be anyone of a lot of people on this very site.  Sorry, but I'm not believing the stories he told, regardless not having a prior reason to not believe him.

Nice to meet you this fall, if you ever want any more muzzle-loading tips, let me know.  Did you ever get an elk?  Man I arrowed a 400" last day bull then had to run up a tree to keep his big brother from goring me.  Crazy stuff...well pretty average day of hunting for me but still you get what I mean.

  Glad you made it back safe from your black ops mission to North Korea.


Seriously, that was another story we got from him