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I my self hate this law but I obey it. I'd rather not risk my hunting rights. But I think if half of us could stand together and fight to get it back and succeeded I would bait for bear. Sadly we are so divided we won't get anything back. We will simply ban our selves out of our favorite past times. One little peace at a time wideling it down slowly so not to raise suspicion from all.
Point taken. History has shown that more improbable things than hunting have been banned. I just thought it was something to think about. At some point hopefully people's moral compass's tell them to do the right thing regardless of what they are told. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment
I agree, it's not my line in the sand either, but I don't report people who's have chosen baiting as their line in the sand. Or maybe it isn't their line, and they break a lot of the rules Regardless, my moral compass doesn't make me feel compelled to turn bait stations in and I don't have any issues being disappointed with the man in the mirror each morning.It is a lot of work establishing and maintaining bait stations, a guy I guide for tried it one year in the spring and said it wasn't worth it. It's easier to hunt the beaches and old roads
Quote from: Curly on November 28, 2015, 09:05:27 AMThere is precident for them to get away with baiting. Here is an old article:http://www.citizenreviewonline.org/june2004/bear.htmNear Quinault last fall, officers raided a camp of about a dozen hunters, charging ten of them with bear baiting: Thomas Durham, James Durham, Christina Stannard, John West, Douglas Klamm, John Speleers, Burgess Drake, Craig Stevenson, Cory Johnson and Dale Steinhauer.The accused ring leader, Tom Durham, denied doing anything wrong, and the charges against him and the others were dropped this week after a district court judge in Jefferson County ruled the initiative to be unconstitutional."What's wrong with it is, it refers to both baiting bears, hunting bears with bait, and also tracking cougars with dogs or hunting cougars with dogs," said defense attorney Linda Callahan. "And that in itself is two subjects, so it violates the rule.""Well, certainly in Jefferson County, I don't think the prosecutor will file any more cases," said defense attorney John Stanislay. "What it means outside of Jefferson County at this point I'm not sure."KING 5 asked: "But if you were a defense attorney in a neighboring county with one of these cases, wouldn't you make this argument now?""I definitely would make the argument, but I would not advise my client to go hunting with bait," said Stanislay.The state Department of Fish and Wildlife says it's disappointed at the ruling."We're going to continue to enforce it. It's a statewide law," said Chief Bruce Bjork, Washington Dept. Fish & Wildlife. "This is a district court decision in Jefferson County specific, so we'll continue to enforce it statewide."This case was overturned by the Court of Appeals and they were convicted in 2006...I was a "subpeoned" (spelling)? in this case, I sat in a few hearings waiting to testify. Finally did for two questions. None of these guys were convicted in the end. nothing to do "unconstitional" several cases across the state were thrown out over wording in the law. The law says something like "anything that in any way attracts or lures" (that is not a quote of the law just my memory) a lady lawyer brought up, "cooking smells, unbathed hunter smells, campfire smells, time of the month smells (for ladies)" any of those could "attract" an animal. anyway, all of the guys from the Quinault deal got off and money refunded. Some of them were written because they "smelled" when they gamies approached them.Unless something happened later?Carl
There is precident for them to get away with baiting. Here is an old article:http://www.citizenreviewonline.org/june2004/bear.htmNear Quinault last fall, officers raided a camp of about a dozen hunters, charging ten of them with bear baiting: Thomas Durham, James Durham, Christina Stannard, John West, Douglas Klamm, John Speleers, Burgess Drake, Craig Stevenson, Cory Johnson and Dale Steinhauer.The accused ring leader, Tom Durham, denied doing anything wrong, and the charges against him and the others were dropped this week after a district court judge in Jefferson County ruled the initiative to be unconstitutional."What's wrong with it is, it refers to both baiting bears, hunting bears with bait, and also tracking cougars with dogs or hunting cougars with dogs," said defense attorney Linda Callahan. "And that in itself is two subjects, so it violates the rule.""Well, certainly in Jefferson County, I don't think the prosecutor will file any more cases," said defense attorney John Stanislay. "What it means outside of Jefferson County at this point I'm not sure."KING 5 asked: "But if you were a defense attorney in a neighboring county with one of these cases, wouldn't you make this argument now?""I definitely would make the argument, but I would not advise my client to go hunting with bait," said Stanislay.The state Department of Fish and Wildlife says it's disappointed at the ruling."We're going to continue to enforce it. It's a statewide law," said Chief Bruce Bjork, Washington Dept. Fish & Wildlife. "This is a district court decision in Jefferson County specific, so we'll continue to enforce it statewide."
