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Re: New hunter with Son wanting to start hunting in 2016
« Reply #25 on: December 12, 2015, 10:56:36 AM »
I HAVE, been thinking of adding a muzzy just to cover all 3 seasons...  so 50 over 54?

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Re: New hunter with Son wanting to start hunting in 2016
« Reply #26 on: December 12, 2015, 11:06:27 AM »
I bought a Lyman Deerstalker in 54 for $175 a few months ago.  They are light and handy.  A Thompson White Mountain Carbine is essentially the same thing.  All the older side lock muzzle loaders will be showing up in pawn shops and in Little Nickle especially after hunting season at great prices. 

The carbines like these two are really handy.  50 or 54 are about the same, the 50 is easier to get bullets for. 

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Re: New hunter with Son wanting to start hunting in 2016
« Reply #27 on: December 12, 2015, 01:41:45 PM »
Good for you and your son wish you guys both the best  :tup:. I would without question get your son into a hunters education class and TAKE IT WITH HIM!! Gun handling and our hunting regs are things anyone in the woods these days should be well versed in  :twocents:. We met several nice folks in the class when I took my kids some guys were even offering access to new hunters in the class.
   As for permits I put my son in for all deer youth and adult options, moose and big horn for youth. We stay away from the elk as I do not have that much time  :chuckle:, and neither does he with school, sports and scouts. My son is 13 and weighs 105 (he has less then 2% body fat as he like to share (thanks DR  :bash:) but has always been small. He has been shooting his .243 since he was 7 and his big sisters .270 since he was 10. If your boy is confident with the .22 and .223 he will do great with a .308 loaded light.

Get him out there with you and having fun and the success of the hunt may never be measured in notched tags.

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Re: New hunter with Son wanting to start hunting in 2016
« Reply #28 on: February 24, 2016, 12:29:21 PM »
SO been a while since I posted on this.  Spoke with son again a few times during my late season hunt.  Spoke with mom and now have him and I signed up for Hunters Ed and have questions.  With school load and the way they eat 3 entire weekday evenings in a row I had to schedule his class out in July/Aug.

I have never put in for a draw here before so am unfamiliar with how it works.  Based on what I have seen to put in for a draw you must have a license.  For my son the only way to get a license is AFTER he passes the class.  So the way I read it, that means that for this year I will not be able to put him in for any of the youth tags since the draws must be submitted in April/May.

Do I have that correct?

I am hoping maybe I can get him practicing and strength up to do Archery so less Chaos and pumpkin patch to deal with, but that is a whole other situation...

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Re: New hunter with Son wanting to start hunting in 2016
« Reply #29 on: February 24, 2016, 12:36:31 PM »
You're correct. He will need a deer license to apply for deer permits and an elk license to apply for deer permits.

However he could apply for moose, sheep, and mountain goat if he's interested in any of those.

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Re: New hunter with Son wanting to start hunting in 2016
« Reply #30 on: February 24, 2016, 12:52:53 PM »
Yes he will need the license to put in for permits.  So for this year no permits but the odds of drawing a permit are pretty slim with only one point anyways.

Good news is he is 13 and that makes him a youth. There are a bunch of units that are open during the general season for youth to take does.  Take him on one of those and I am sure even with the pumpkin patch you will see lots of deer and have an opportunity at a deer for him.

Also the units that are open for youth to take does during the general season seem to have less pressure/hunter density than some of the other areas.
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Re: New hunter with Son wanting to start hunting in 2016
« Reply #31 on: February 24, 2016, 12:58:58 PM »
Make sure to get him out hunting grouse in September.  Also, you should look into going out of state for some good success on deer to really put the hunting bug in him.  I recommend looking into Wyoming, where you could get several anterless tags and have virtually 100% chance at success.
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Re: New hunter with Son wanting to start hunting in 2016
« Reply #32 on: February 24, 2016, 01:56:44 PM »
Thanks for the info and ideas!

WY, if I remember it right they require all out of state hunters to hire a licensed guide?  That combined with tag price would put it well out of my reach financially at least right now.

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Re: New hunter with Son wanting to start hunting in 2016
« Reply #33 on: February 24, 2016, 02:13:39 PM »
No guide necessary in Wyoming. At least not in the areas that you can get cheap antlrless tags.
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Re: New hunter with Son wanting to start hunting in 2016
« Reply #34 on: February 24, 2016, 07:58:26 PM »
I have to agree with Bob33, the .308 should be fine for him.  My second deer was with a .308 at age 13, and I was on the smaller side, though it was a semi-auto. But as mentioned, reduce recoil loads are common and would be a good starting point for him.

Other than maybe being on the heavy side, I also think that the big game legal ARs would be an acceptable alternative.

I have to agree as well, I took my first deer when I was 12 with a .308 and normal loads, so he he should be able to handle it

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Re: New hunter with Son wanting to start hunting in 2016
« Reply #35 on: February 25, 2016, 12:01:50 PM »
If recoil and crowds are a problem for your son, ya might think Black Powder... What I did with my 10 yr old grandson... he should be able to handle any of the 50's out there and they more push hard rather then kick, and the crowds will be less (tho there seem to be more every year)... as for field dressing/cleaning your kills... best way to learn is by doing... my first big game a buddy watched as he told me the process and after one it was easy... to help with the squeamish part, maybe start him on small game... rabbits, coyotes, birds... process is pretty much the same on a smaller scale, and less blood so maybe he won't puke as much the first few times... after he does a few, then the big ones don't seem as gross...

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Re: New hunter with Son wanting to start hunting in 2016
« Reply #36 on: February 25, 2016, 02:13:33 PM »
Thanks guys!!  Gives me lots to work with.

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Re: New hunter with Son wanting to start hunting in 2016
« Reply #37 on: February 28, 2016, 01:10:14 PM »
I'm a new hunter myself too. I also started learning to hunt by myself at 12 which means I got the all the best ways to learn for new hunters. I personally  have a .308 11/111 Savage Youth bolt action rifle. It's a great rifle with just enough kick to look cool. It also is enough caliber to take down any deer or elk at an affordable price. But it really depends on what caliber your son will feel comfortable shooting. Now for skinning, gutting, and even tanning hides I HIGHLY recommend going on YouTube and searching, "Richard Smith How To Gut A Deer". Have your son watch that video until he can tell you how to gut a deer backwards. It is definitely the best deer gutting video I have ever seen, Richard explains it very well and there's no shaky camera work. You may even want to make him a little "hunting guide" with a couple important things he should remember. What also will really help is take him scouting. Just go out before hunting season and hike as fare as you can go with all your hunting gear (bringing your rifle isn't required). Almost like your going hunting, walk slow thru the woods be quit and listen. But also be sure to show him things along the way like scat and rubs. That way he gets more familiar with deer signs. Good luck and if you have anymore questions feel free to PM me :tup:
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Re: New hunter with Son wanting to start hunting in 2016
« Reply #38 on: June 18, 2016, 10:44:39 PM »
 :tup: great info for him. I had to learn by my self reading books and VHS tapes. New hunters have a leg up these days. I just want to say. Go east to Republic your son can take a Whitetail doe. Very easy hunt and like one member said. You guys can learn together. There is also a butcher in Curlew, Wa and he would show you how to gut your first deer. Page's Domestic & Wild Game #509-779-4519. You just load the deer whole in your truck and head to his place. He will either show you or guide thru gutting and skinning you for a small fee.
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