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[cat daddy]

Are dp's for coon legal in Washington? Thanks

[Jonathan_S]

Are dp's for coon legal in Washington? Thanks

nope, sorry.

[predatorpro]

Nope!

[cat daddy]

Thanks guys

[Humptulips]

They can be with a Special permit if they are modified. I modified one I have shown at the fair. You take the wire loop off that acts as a jaw and slide on a piece of tubing. You then have to cut out the slot it works in so it can fit.
Lot of work but it can be done. Then you can't use it for fur trapping so I don't know if it is all that worthwhile.

[UrbanTrapper]

It would work for nuisance trapping of cage-shy coons!  Please show us some pictures of this trap.  I think I want a couple of them.

[Humptulips]

It would work for nuisance trapping of cage-shy coons!  Please show us some pictures of this trap.  I think I want a couple of them.

Well apparently  I have been informed the Department has been writing some permits for DP traps and calling them non-strangling foot snares. It might be worth the while to apply for a permit and see what happens.

[Machias]

for DP traps and calling them non-strangling foot snares.

 

[UrbanTrapper]

It would work for nuisance trapping of cage-shy coons!  Please show us some pictures of this trap.  I think I want a couple of them.

Well apparently  I have been informed the Department has been writing some permits for DP traps and calling them non-strangling foot snares. It might be worth the while to apply for a permit and see what happens.

How would you know that WDFW actually gave you permission to use a DP and you wouldn't get pinched for it later?  Do you put "Dog-proof" in the comments section or what?

[Humptulips]

Yea, I think it would have to be written on the permit somewhere. Definitely a change as I know a person that was warned for using them several years ago. They told her at the time they were a no no unless modified.

[Humptulips]

I checked in on this. The new guy at WDFW , Robert Wadell that handles the Special Trapping permits erred in advising people they could use unmodified DP traps.
They will not be issuing any permits for them. Enforcement will write you a ticket if you use them.

[UrbanTrapper]

So now I'm back to asking to see pics of your modified DP that one CAN get a special permit to use for cage shy nuisance coons. 

[Humptulips]

So now I'm back to asking to see pics of your modified DP that one CAN get a special permit to use for cage shy nuisance coons.

Chip,
 WDFW has backtracked on that too. I'm still talking to them about it. They are really getting nitpicky. Hard to believe but they are saying that might not allow it not because it is not padded but because it only has one jaw.
The law says both jaws have to be padded which they are saying makes only traps with two jaws can be permitted. Bureaucrats 

[UrbanTrapper]

We'll have to wait until the first coon with rabies is found in WA State AND it gets reported in the media, AND the soccer moms start panicking because they have raccoons in their yards and THEN WDFW will become very permissive. 

[jasnt]

[Humptulips]

Received this today,

At this time, the dog-proof raccoon trap doesn’t meet the definition and intent of the wording in WAC 232-12-142 or RCW 77.15.194.  In both you can find the words “jawed” or “both jaws”, indicating that two jaws are part of a “padded leg-hold trap”. Even modified with padding, we won’t be able to issue any permits for the use of the dog-proof raccoon trap.

 

[UrbanTrapper]

That was written by someone who isn't even TRYING to discern the intent of the WAC.  The intent is to have PADDING not two jaws.

[Humptulips]

I haven't quite given up yet. I sent them a rebuttal letter. Waiting for a reply.

[huntingfool7]

WDFW allows foot snares on a permit.  Why couldn't you modify a DP with a cable?

[pnwmtnmn]

Where does it say that a jaw has to move? In my opinion the DP traps have a moving jaw(the wire) and a stationary jaw( the side of the tube). This is just like a human jaw, only the lower jaw moves, The upper is stationary.

[Humptulips]

Where does it say that a jaw has to move? In my opinion the DP traps have a moving jaw(the wire) and a stationary jaw( the side of the tube). This is just like a human jaw, only the lower jaw moves, The upper is stationary.

I have made that point although I used the jaws of a vice as an example. Took it straight out of a dictionary.
Still waiting on a reply.

[Axle]

DP coon traps work extremely well. Especially when you have an old chicken-killing boar that won't go into a cage trap.
You simply bait them with marshmallows. You put a few on the ground tucked in behind the trap. You set the trap on an angle and brace it in a bit. The coon comes up and eats the few marshmallows set on the ground which are tucked in behind the trap. It gets a taste for the tasty treats and without fail - it notices the tasty morsel inside the small cylindrical trap. With just one more to get, the bandit sticks its paw inside to extract the white fluffy goodness and then bam! - it's caught. Then it just sits and waits till you come and give it some good news.

[Skunk Trapper]

We know they work. That's why the clowns over at the game department won't allow us to use em 

Buncha bullpucky....whens WDFW gonna get their act together

[Trapper John]

 

"When is WDFW gonna get their act together  You have to Ask?

NEVER     that's like    
 
JC   

[Humptulips]

Although a DP trap may work the best there is a way to utilize a padded jaw coil spring as a DP trap.
Dig a trap bed as deep as the jaws of the trap are high or just bit deeper. Set the trap in the hole and place a fair sized piece of ply wood over the set with a small hole in the plywood over the coilspring. If you use too small a piece of plywood the coon may try and dig under the edge. I would suggest 3'x3'.

The other way is similar but you cut one end out of a can that will fit over the trap. Hole in the top end for the coon to reach through.

Remember this is only legal with a Special Trapping permit that indicates padded jaw traps.