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Why are success rates so low for muzzleloader elk??

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docsven:
I was up at the range today with the green river mountain men, noticed the old timers said a lot of the same thing "a lot of new ML shooters don't practice much, and they don't know the line between proper powder measures and bullet weight,  don't take the time to get to know their rifle and where it shoots" they also were saying that the inline rifles don't have the proper twist rate using sabots that the patch and ball traditionals have.  Personally, I don't know anything about them, but I have thought about taking it up for the difference in season.  After what I saw today, it looks like there's a lot more to it, and they said the same thing about kill range, 100 to up to 150 yards. The 70-something year old (oldest shooter) was cleaning up!

Moose Eyes:

--- Quote from: colockumelk on February 07, 2009, 05:21:42 PM ---Yeah the sights that come with the Black Diamond are horrible for accurate groups.  The sights are too fat.  I went to this website and bought this peep sight. It costs $36.95 http://www.williamsgunsight.com/gunsights/wgrs.htm
Code No. 66708
Model No.  WGRS-Black Diamond

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Thank you!

colockumelk:
Your welcome.  A word of advice.  The new sights took me a couple of times to get used to.  The first time I went shooting with them I shot like absolute crap.  I mean super horrible.  THe second time I went out I shot okay and thought really hard about getting rid of them.  The third time I went out shooting with those sights I shot fairly well.  The fourth time I shot awsome.  I zeroed it in at 100yds and then my next two shots were touching each other and the bulls eye and the third shot was about 1/2 and inch below my first two shots.  From then on I shot at an 8 inch steel target.  At 150yds it shot about 4 inches low and I hit it every time.  At 200yds I hit it 2 out of three times at I believe was shooting about a foot or so low.  You will not regret getting a peep sight I recommend it to every one.  Both my brothers have them now and they love them.  Running shots will be a little bit harder but that's not an ideal shot anyways.  Good luck.

fishunt247:
Clockum, sorry if I misunderstood. That is just what I got out of it. I used to muzzleload strictly for elk, and went to the Truglo Tridium so I could squeeze all I could out of shooting light. I have since dropped the elk gig and hunt deer with it. I also hunt open country deer now, and have tried to practice to 150 with that sight...its a no go. For me with that sight it is a guessing game at best. I may have to switch to a peep now that I just deer hunt.

colockumelk:
I was the same way.  I bow hunt for elk and I only use the muzzleloader for deer.  My T/C came with those big fat tridium sights and while I could get decent groups out to 100 yds that was about it because they are so fat.  Well the vast majority of my deer hunting is in the open country.  This year I shot my deer on the last  day at 165 yds because that is close as I could get.  I had to low crawl 50 yds.  If I hadn't had the peep sight I never would have been able to make that shot.  Even then she was perfectly broad side and I never would have taken that shot that far out if she'd been quartering at all.  If you do go to the peep expect to shoot like crap the first few times.  I did.  I almost thought about getting rid of it.  But the third or fourth time I took it out I finally got good with it and shot some amazing groups.  It just got better from there.  If you switch you will see some amazing results.  If you scroll up I posted the website and which site I got in reply to moose eyes question.  Below that I gave out a bunch of advise on the sight as well.  A lessons learned sort of thing.  Again yeah I wasn't trying to bash an individual out there I was bashing people who shoot like crap because they don't put any effort into getting good or staying profficient with their tools.  The elk and deer deserve better than that. 

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