Wolves, a good thing?

[huntnphool]

My definition of "End Hunting": There is no longer any reasonable hunting opportunity available and this condition is expected to persist for the foreseeable future.  Game populations are so sparse that probability of harvest is nearly 0; the state has closed all seasons or no longer sells tags.

What is not "End Hunting": Shorter seasons, additional harvest restrictions (like stopping antlerless harvest), reduced harvest numbers from historic highs, reduced success rates.  While these are not desirable, they are a far cry from End Hunting.

Lets stop the exaggerated bs.  Just because the tree huggers do it doesn't mean we should.  Lets keep our credibility with the 80% of non-hunting voters in this country.

 Perfect, so I don't believe there is anybody on this site that truly believes wolves will "end hunting" , however there is no doubt that wolves will result in shorter seasons, additional harvest restrictions, reduced harvest numbers and reduce success rates.

[idahohuntr]

My definition of "End Hunting": There is no longer any reasonable hunting opportunity available and this condition is expected to persist for the foreseeable future.  Game populations are so sparse that probability of harvest is nearly 0; the state has closed all seasons or no longer sells tags.

What is not "End Hunting": Shorter seasons, additional harvest restrictions (like stopping antlerless harvest), reduced harvest numbers from historic highs, reduced success rates.  While these are not desirable, they are a far cry from End Hunting.

Lets stop the exaggerated bs.  Just because the tree huggers do it doesn't mean we should.  Lets keep our credibility with the 80% of non-hunting voters in this country.

 Perfect, so I don't believe there is anybody on this site that truly believes wolves will "end hunting" , however there is no doubt that wolves will result in shorter seasons, additional harvest restrictions, reduced harvest numbers and reduce success rates.

[Curly]

And, won't most on here agree that wolves are then a bad thing?

I don't see how anyone can claim that wolves in this state are a "good thing"?  We all should be aware that management of wolves in this state will basically be/is non-existent. 

[huntnphool]

And, won't most on here agree that wolves are then a bad thing?

I don't see how anyone can claim that wolves in this state are a "good thing"?  We all should be aware that management of wolves in this state will basically be/is non-existent.

 They are being managed, SSS!

[257 Wby Mag]

And, won't most on here agree that wolves are then a bad thing?

I don't see how anyone can claim that wolves in this state are a "good thing"?  We all should be aware that management of wolves in this state will basically be/is non-existent.

 They are being managed, SSS!

I get it, breaking the law is cool if it's not a 400" bull or a 190" buck... Wow

[pianoman9701]

A forty per cent reduction in opportunities for hunters is now " reasonable"?  And sportsmen should just shut up?

My definition of "End Hunting": There is no longer any reasonable hunting opportunity available and this condition is expected to persist for the foreseeable future.  Game populations are so sparse that probability of harvest is nearly 0; the state has closed all seasons or no longer sells tags.

What is not "End Hunting": Shorter seasons, additional harvest restrictions (like stopping antlerless harvest), reduced harvest numbers from historic highs, reduced success rates.  While these are not desirable, they are a far cry from End Hunting.

Lets stop the exaggerated bs.  Just because the tree huggers do it doesn't mean we should.  Lets keep our credibility with the 80% of non-hunting voters in this country.

Anyone who thinks a 40% reduction in hunting is acceptable really believes that hunting's not that important. What's the difference between 40% and 50%? Really, what's the difference between 40% or 80%. Most of us who've grown up hunting, do hunting-related activities year round, teach hunter's safety, save large sums of money for tags and trips and use our vacations, wish to someday take out grandkids hunting, don't find 40% acceptable because it isn't. It's 40 today, 80 tomorrow, and done with hunting completely in a very short period of time.

There will be a chain of events that starts with this 40%. Then a large number of hunters will lose confidence in the WDFW and stop hunting here altogether. Revenues from hunter dollars will fall drastically so the budget for the WDFW will begin to shift to the general fund more and more. As the general fund amount increases and hunter $s decrease, the emphasis on the WDFW's commitment to hunting will decrease and for the wolf watchers, will increase. This is a concerted effort to eliminate hunting and it will eventually succeed in WA.

[Kittman]

Wolf management in this state? Now thats wishful thinking.

When Capitalists can't sell you something, they will work hard to improve it.  When a Socialist can't sell you something they create a law and force you to buy it anyway!

Clearly road kill is the only method of state wolf management which is already in progress.

[KFhunter]

My definition of "End Hunting": There is no longer any reasonable hunting opportunity available and this condition is expected to persist for the foreseeable future.  Game populations are so sparse that probability of harvest is nearly 0; the state has closed all seasons or no longer sells tags.

What is not "End Hunting": Shorter seasons, additional harvest restrictions (like stopping antlerless harvest), reduced harvest numbers from historic highs, reduced success rates.  While these are not desirable, they are a far cry from End Hunting.

Lets stop the exaggerated bs.  Just because the tree huggers do it doesn't mean we should.  Lets keep our credibility with the 80% of non-hunting voters in this country.

 Perfect, so I don't believe there is anybody on this site that truly believes wolves will "end hunting" , however there is no doubt that wolves will result in shorter seasons, additional harvest restrictions, reduced harvest numbers and reduce success rates.

Wolves could help bring an end to hunting if the already abysmal success rates drop lower, new hunter recruitment will drop even lower, hunters' small voice will grow quiet.  Hunting could very will be killed by voters and decrease opportunity.


Hopefully we'll add hunting rights to the states constitution to help combat this.

[WAPatriot]

Are Mosquitos good what about Ebola. Wolves are the worst

[ribka]

A reasonable and logical person knows that over the past 30 years hunting seasons and opportunities are shrinking in almost all western states and in the mid west . There is indisputable evidence nowthat the introduction of wolves willgreatly hasten this process.

Can wolves be managed by hunting? Absolutely not

Can wolves be managed by Ariel shooting? No again

Can wolves be successfully managed by trapping and poisoning?  Yes

Are these two methods allowed to manage wolves in most states, no these methods are outlawed by clueless urban voters

So can wolves be successfully managed in WA and OR if numbers increase? Nope

Will sportsmen be adversely impacted? Without a doubt

If one is lucky enough in the future to draw a deer or elk  tag everyb8 to 10 years then hunting still exists and we should be grateful we can still hunt

I understand your logic now

[huntnphool]

And, won't most on here agree that wolves are then a bad thing?

I don't see how anyone can claim that wolves in this state are a "good thing"?  We all should be aware that management of wolves in this state will basically be/is non-existent.

 They are being managed, SSS!

I get it, breaking the law is cool if it's not a 400" bull or a 190" buck... Wow

 I didn't say I condoned it did I, I simply stated they are being managed..........have another drink.

[257 Wby Mag]

I wish I had some makers!! You feverishly run your yap about other poaching, yet when it comes to sss and wolf management , you come across like "it's alright"...  You're doing great ol wise one...

[huntnphool]

You feverishly run your yap about other poaching

 Ah, you've finally admitted the truth of Tods hunting exploits, Makers all around indeed!

[257 Wby Mag]

Like always you've got lots of other threads to give your 2 cents on, congrats??

[huntnphool]

Like always you've got lots of other threads to give your 2 cents on, congrats??