Re: dyed diesel in newer pickups

[Caseyd]

Tank normal, external tank into the engine

[baker5150]

Huh... I did not know we had diesel patrol.

So, keeping this within the realm of friendly, legal, moderator approved conversation, what if they dipped a tank and you were running veggie, or mineral or any other legal alternative fuel that can be used in a diesel... Then what?

What about buying fuel in Canada for say a long haul road trip? We had a boat come in to the shop the other day with different colored fuel than what's normally in a tank (Red), do they dye fuel red and green/yellow there?

I saw blue gasoline the other day...

Many questions as I've never heard of this, not surprised, but still haven't heard of this

Boats can use Dyed diesel if I re-call correctly, since they aren't a road use vehicle.
I have gotten Diesel fuel in Canada for my pickup, and it wasn't dyed Red.  So you should be good there.
I've never heard of Blue Gasoline, but I have never heard of "Offroad only, dyed gasoline" either, only diesel.
I don't think they will dip a gasser's tank.  No reason to.

[Woodchuck]

Huh... I did not know we had diesel patrol.

So, keeping this within the realm of friendly, legal, moderator approved conversation, what if they dipped a tank and you were running veggie, or mineral or any other legal alternative fuel that can be used in a diesel... Then what?

What about buying fuel in Canada for say a long haul road trip? We had a boat come in to the shop the other day with different colored fuel than what's normally in a tank (Red), do they dye fuel red and green/yellow there?

I saw blue gasoline the other day...

Many questions as I've never heard of this, not surprised, but still haven't heard of this

Boats can use Dyed diesel if I re-call correctly, since they aren't a road use vehicle.
I have gotten Diesel fuel in Canada for my pickup, and it wasn't dyed Red.  So you should be good there.
I've never heard of Blue Gasoline, but I have never heard of "Offroad only, dyed gasoline" either, only diesel.
I don't think they will dip a gasser's tank.  No reason to.

Oh yes, there is off road gas, lots of old tractors are gassers, yes it is red to.

[baker5150]

A good reason for being concerned is I have ran ATF in my fuel system as an injector detergent for my Cummins.  After reading this, I realized the ATF is red and could possible dye my fuel a bit red as well.  I know of more than a few guys who run ATF. 

[Woodchuck]

Also a good point, I am guilty of that, hmmmmm

[C-Money]

Maybe the blue gas had some marine Sta-bil in it.

[jackelope]

Maybe the blue gas had some marine Sta-bil in it.

I can't say I've ever looked at it, but is E-85 Ethanol fuel possibly the blue gas?

[BULLBLASTER]

I have seen race gas that was blue.

[KFhunter]

Tank normal, external tank into the engine

I think they could just take a sample at the fuel filter drain

[Woodchuck]

 

[Knocker of rocks]

 years ago you were required to have a off road fuel permit

Joe Blow used to be able to buy it at a gas station in Kenmore from about 45 years ago till 1986.  So "years ago" was either before that, after that or never ever.

[Dhoey07]

Tank normal, external tank into the engine

I think they could just take a sample at the fuel filter drain

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If you have one

[KFhunter]

http://www.dol.wa.gov/vehicleregistration/dyeddiesel.html

[headshot5]

I have never heard of a tank getting dipped unless there was a external fuel tank in the bed. Does anyone have first hand experience with a tank getting dipped when external fuel tanks were not present?

As far as the fuel goes the red and green are exactly the same, you just don't pay taxes on the red.

They like to dip diesel pickups at cattle auctions etc.  The other person who posted is correct it is usually when the price of on road diesel gets pretty high.  I'd like to see how they feel when they dip a tank and it has Vegetable oil on it...  Definitely didn't pay the road tax for that.       As far as being the same, I'm not sure if the Red diesel is low sulfur like the current on-road diesel is???   

Also I know they check fuel vendors (tanker trucks) to see if they are fueling their trucks from their tanks when hauling off road diesel.   

[TheSkyBuster]

For those of you considering running red diesel on the highway you should know that Tank dipping is not done by local law enforcement.  It is done by IRS fuel tax compliance agents.  ( yes they really have those.) and they do set up check points usually on rural roads, in agricultural areas.   The check points I have Seen were assisted by WSP and all diesel trucks were stopped by the cops so the IRS could dip the tanks.   Fines start at $1000.00, so it probably isn't worth it to save a few cents per gallon. 


https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p4941.pdf