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BnB:
Assuming the gun was not legal, you might get 3. Illegal weapon, illegal tagging and if he took the head off he had to leave evidence of sex attached. That's a good point about maybe some of the wardens are not up on the regs or maybe they are legal and I just missed it. Wouldn't be the first time.

bobcat:
Sealed breech muzzleloaders with 209 primer ignitions are DEFINITELY illegal during muzzleloader season. No doubt about that. The only question that I now have is are they also illegal during modern firearm season (deer & elk) and bear season.

In your scenario, I don't see where there is three violations. I would say only one: the illegal muzzleloader. How did he tag it illegally? Because the tag was on the antlers? That's where I always put my tag.

You didn't say he did not leave evidence of sex attached. I would assume that if somebody removes the head, then he would have left evidence of sex on one of the hind quarters. But you're right, if he didn't do that, then that would be violation number 2.

BnB:
Could be 3. The weapon. If you take the head off you must tag the biggest portion of the meat. Tag stays with the meat. At the processor, if you use one, and in your freezer. Page 59. There might be a good chance that if the head was removed and tagged, evidence of sex might not have been left. I always had put my tag on the antlers or through the ear if it was a cow or a doe. I was going on a hunt in Oregon I think it was, and saw that in their regs and just checked Wa and there it was. Don't know how long it had been that way but we had always tagged the head. I wonder if you could call the removed head part of the carcass? Still tag has to stay with the meat.

bobcat:
As long as you keep the head and the rest of the carcass in the same place, it doesn't matter where the tag is. I always leave it on the antlers, until I get it home.

billythekidrock:
So I think I see what you are saying.
Maybe the regs mean "muzzle loader" as in the traditional sense..period. Even in modern, restricted or bear seasons.

Hhmm..
Well if I decide to ML for bear this spring I will be using a Thompson Center Gray Hawk in 50 cal. So there will be no probs, but I had considered buying an inline (209 Primer) for bear and firearm restricted areas. Not sure anymore.

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