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Re: deer mount, a bit different
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Re: deer mount, a bit different
« Reply #16 on: November 12, 2017, 10:01:40 AM »
Great way to glorify the wrong parts of hunting... :rolleyes:

How is this "glorifying the wrong parts of Hunting"?  Not wanting to start a fight....just asking.  Couldn't the same statement be made for any mount????  Especially a trophy head / antler mount.  Hunting historically has been for sustenance.  It has evolved for some to "trophy hunting" which could be construed as "wrong....or purposeless killing for the sake of having big antlers to display" (I don't agree 100% but for argument sake).   

Though this mount is not for everyone.....it depicts an archery killed deer.  This is reality, deer get killed with arrows.  Deer bleed, deer lick wounds, deer die and some deer get mounted to be placed on display in peoples homes.  So as for "glorifying the wrong parts of hunting....."  I disagree whole heartedly.  Not for everyone....I definitely get.   Not for the internet....well to each their own.  Anti's are not fond of any mount so at which point are we going to stop catering to them? 


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Re: deer mount, a bit different
« Reply #17 on: November 12, 2017, 11:17:14 AM »
Great way to glorify the wrong parts of hunting... :rolleyes:

How is this "glorifying the wrong parts of Hunting"?  Not wanting to start a fight....just asking.  Couldn't the same statement be made for any mount????

Since you're just asking-

No, that same could not be said for any mount.  Taxidermy is basically a 3D snapshot of time.  Traditional taxidermy's purpose is to glorify the animal itself in its pre-deceased form.  That's the art of it.  This mount is less art and more pornography, imho.  It isn't glorifying the animal itself as much as the act of killing it.  The gore and the depiction of the animal in distress during a lingering death is what moves this from a traditional taxidermy honoring the animal to the distasteful celebration of its suffering.
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Re: deer mount, a bit different
« Reply #18 on: November 12, 2017, 11:25:26 AM »
Hate it!  Tasteless.  Wounded animal dieing from an idiot that cant shoot straight.  Worst mount I have ever seen.   

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Re: deer mount, a bit different
« Reply #19 on: November 12, 2017, 11:35:28 AM »
Hate it!  Tasteless.  Wounded animal dieing from an idiot that cant shoot straight.  Worst mount I have ever seen.

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Re: deer mount, a bit different
« Reply #20 on: November 12, 2017, 11:50:01 AM »
Hate it!  Tasteless.  Wounded animal dieing from an idiot that cant shoot straight.  Worst mount I have ever seen.   
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Re: deer mount, a bit different
« Reply #21 on: November 12, 2017, 11:50:49 AM »
Why is everyone caught up on the "wounded animal" "bad shot" thing?  I get it, as a long time (32 year) bow hunter, the shot is forward.  It looks like it is still a kill shot based on the fact the animal is mounted. 

I can understand if you don't like the mount or blood....but to justify your reasoning as a "bad shot" is a little silly.  I personally would have changed the angle of the arrow on the mount to direct it more toward exiting behind the off side shoulder, but hey....its a mount.  Oh yeah and the deer obviously died.   :chuckle: :chuckle:

Based on some responses....Would this mount be seen as "Bad" or Tasteless as well?  Just another apex predator killing a buck.   

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Re: deer mount, a bit different
« Reply #22 on: November 12, 2017, 01:00:56 PM »
Saying you're "not wanting to start a fight, just asking," then asking for those who replied to further justify themselves and arguing for your position seems a little like a bait and switch.

It's clear you don't see the same thing the rest of the posters in this thread see.  To each their own.  I am personally glad to see the overwhelmingly negative responses to this mount, in that they help inform those who might be on the fence about it what this mount represents to the majority of hunters.

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Re: deer mount, a bit different
« Reply #23 on: November 12, 2017, 01:03:28 PM »
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How is this "glorifying the wrong parts of Hunting"?  Not wanting to start a fight....just asking.  Couldn't the same statement be made for any mount????  Especially a trophy head / antler mount.  Hunting historically has been for sustenance.  It has evolved for some to "trophy hunting" which could be construed as "wrong....or purposeless killing for the sake of having big antlers to display" (I don't agree 100% but for argument sake).   

Though this mount is not for everyone.....it depicts an archery killed deer.  This is reality, deer get killed with arrows.  Deer bleed, deer lick wounds, deer die and some deer get mounted to be placed on display in peoples homes.  So as for "glorifying the wrong parts of hunting....."  I disagree whole heartedly.  Not for everyone....I definitely get.   Not for the internet....well to each their own.  Anti's are not fond of any mount so at which point are we going to stop catering to them? 

Legit question. First of all, I think the shot placement is good. The vast majority of hunters shoot deer too far back, and end up hitting the back of the lungs instead of the great vessels coming out of the heart. That's why it's common to hear about deer running dozens or hundreds of yards after a supposedly "good" bow shot. The arrow should go at the very point of the "V" formed by the humerus and scapula. WELL forward of the famous "crease." As close to the point of the V as you can get. A shot there *always* drops a deer within a few seconds, because it transects the aorta and the pulmonary artery. Most devastating injury short of decapitation.

The shot placement is not relevant to my dislike of the mount. It glorifies the wrong parts of hunting because it is commemorating the death of the animal and not the life of the animal. Good taxidermy strives to make a dead animal look forever alive, and what's being celebrated is the beauty of a living organism. This mount has frozen the worst moment of what is in fact a fast, clean death and made it, in a way, last forever. It is grotesque to me precisely because it makes timeless and front-and-center what is in fact fleeting and NOT central in hunting.

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Re: deer mount, a bit different
« Reply #24 on: November 12, 2017, 01:30:25 PM »
 

I also get a negative vibe from the mount. And its not my thing.

But I understand what jrebel is saying, and don't think its trollish at all. Ultimately it doesn't matter one bit what the mount represents to me, or any of "the majority of hunters". Only what it represents to the hunter that killed him. Perhaps he made a poor shot and watched in agony as the buck took his last breaths, to him this pose could have been the most  appropriate way to memorialize the bucks memory, Or encourage him to practice more and avoid the pain and suffering caused by a less than lethal blow. Maybe he put extreme effort into tracking and bringing the buck to bag, and this was the way he found him. Maybe he is a ghoulish bloodhound. We don't know.

Its been said many times even on this forum, Taxidermy is art. Sometimes art is graphic, and controversial. I don't like it. But I would rather see this,  than a buck rotting in a field because the hunter just walked away.

Death is part of hunting. It is central to hunting.  SOMETIMES it is fleeting. As npaull points out this time it was fleeting. Isn't that the point?



 

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Re: deer mount, a bit different
« Reply #25 on: November 12, 2017, 01:52:12 PM »
Why is everyone caught up on the "wounded animal" "bad shot" thing?  I get it, as a long time (32 year) bow hunter, the shot is forward.  It looks like it is still a kill shot based on the fact the animal is mounted. 

I can understand if you don't like the mount or blood....but to justify your reasoning as a "bad shot" is a little silly.  I personally would have changed the angle of the arrow on the mount to direct it more toward exiting behind the off side shoulder, but hey....its a mount.  Oh yeah and the deer obviously died.   :chuckle: :chuckle:

Based on some responses....Would this mount be seen as "Bad" or Tasteless as well?  Just another apex predator killing a buck.
No, thatís just crappy taxidermy.  :chuckle:
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Re: deer mount, a bit different
« Reply #26 on: November 12, 2017, 02:08:02 PM »
My initial reaction upon seeing it.....didn't like, find it somewhat replusive.  After thinking about it and looking again........same opinion. :twocents:
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Re: deer mount, a bit different
« Reply #27 on: November 12, 2017, 02:18:10 PM »
Iíve never seen such a despicable mount.  Iíd use more appropriate language To describe it but that wouldnít be appropriate for this site. 

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Re: deer mount, a bit different
« Reply #28 on: November 12, 2017, 03:46:40 PM »
In the Victorian Era it was a popular past time for women of means to taxidermy songbirds and small creatures for decorative purposes. So taxidermy has been and still can be simply another accoutrement that shows off ones wealth.

It is also used in the fine art realm, and the buying and selling of mounts among antiques and arts world has always existed.

That said that's not a mount I would want but that's merely my opinion.
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Re: deer mount, a bit different
« Reply #29 on: November 12, 2017, 03:52:19 PM »
Not for me, the actual shot and death of the animal is my least favorite part of a hunt (although obviously necessary), thus I wouldn't want to highlight and memorialize that.  For me, taxidermy or horns/antlers on the wall is a way to remember the hunt in all it's glory.  If I had that in my house, it would only remind me of the death part.

 

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