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Re: Trump Administration Lifts Ban on Imports of Elephant Hunting Trophies
« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2017, 08:14:45 AM »
I saw this.  :tup: I bet the animal rights people are losing their minds right now.  :chuckle:
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Re: Trump Administration Lifts Ban on Imports of Elephant Hunting Trophies
« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2017, 08:21:03 AM »
I saw this.  :tup: I bet the animal rights people are losing their minds right now.  :chuckle:


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Re: Trump Administration Lifts Ban on Imports of Elephant Hunting Trophies
« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2017, 08:23:56 AM »
Thats cool...maybe he can tackle the predator problems out west now?
I felt like a one legged cat trying to bury a terd on a frozen pond!

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Re: Trump Administration Lifts Ban on Imports of Elephant Hunting Trophies
« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2017, 08:29:14 AM »
I'm waiting for him to work on the ESA!  :tup:
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Re: Trump Administration Lifts Ban on Imports of Elephant Hunting Trophies
« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2017, 08:34:10 AM »
I'm waiting for him to work on the ESA!  :tup:
Only congress can change the ESA.

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Re: Trump Administration Lifts Ban on Imports of Elephant Hunting Trophies
« Reply #6 on: November 17, 2017, 08:35:15 AM »
I'm waiting for him to work on the ESA!  :tup:
Only congress can change the ESA.
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Re: Trump Administration Lifts Ban on Imports of Elephant Hunting Trophies
« Reply #7 on: November 17, 2017, 08:35:35 AM »
I'm waiting for him to work on the ESA!  :tup:
Only congress can change the ESA.

 :tup: That's why I said work on the ESA!
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Re: Trump Administration Lifts Ban on Imports of Elephant Hunting Trophies
« Reply #8 on: November 17, 2017, 08:43:16 AM »
I'm waiting for him to work on the ESA!  :tup:
Only congress can change the ESA.
:tup: That's why I said work on the ESA!
And what do you suggest?

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Re: Trump Administration Lifts Ban on Imports of Elephant Hunting Trophies
« Reply #9 on: November 17, 2017, 09:03:58 AM »
I'm waiting for him to work on the ESA!  :tup:
Only congress can change the ESA.
:tup: That's why I said work on the ESA!
And what do you suggest?

Language providing clear guidance on how and when animals will be removed to limit or prevent groups from suing.  One of the big issues is that animals go on and almost never are removed.  Lawsuits can keep them on the list decades after they should be removed. 

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Re: Trump Administration Lifts Ban on Imports of Elephant Hunting Trophies
« Reply #10 on: November 17, 2017, 10:20:41 AM »
I'm waiting for him to work on the ESA!  :tup:
Only congress can change the ESA.
:tup: That's why I said work on the ESA!
And what do you suggest?

1st on the List
Eliminate the ability for antihunting groups to sue and get reimbursed, the anti-hunting groups are getting rich off taxpayers by sueing over the ESA.

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Require proof a specie is critically engangered before it can be given ESA protection. Case in point, 60,000 wolves in existence in North America and they were give ESA protection. Meanwhile caribou are going extinct because of ESA protections on wolves!
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Re: Trump Administration Lifts Ban on Imports of Elephant Hunting Trophies
« Reply #11 on: November 17, 2017, 10:53:40 AM »
I'm waiting for him to work on the ESA!  :tup:
Only congress can change the ESA.
:tup: That's why I said work on the ESA!
And what do you suggest?

1st on the List
Eliminate the ability for antihunting groups to sue and get reimbursed, the anti-hunting groups are getting rich off taxpayers by sueing over the ESA.

2nd
Require proof a specie is critically engangered before it can be given ESA protection. Case in point, 60,000 wolves in existence in North America and they were give ESA protection. Meanwhile caribou are going extinct because of ESA protections on wolves!

Case 3: Wild Horses:

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Re: Trump Administration Lifts Ban on Imports of Elephant Hunting Trophies
« Reply #12 on: November 17, 2017, 11:00:20 AM »
I belive he instructed to EPA to no longer engage in settling with groups, doing away with the air and settle tactic.

If that is expanded to USFS & USFWS that would go a long way to helping these issues.

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Re: Trump Administration Lifts Ban on Imports of Elephant Hunting Trophies
« Reply #13 on: November 17, 2017, 11:04:44 AM »
I'm waiting for him to work on the ESA!  :tup:
Only congress can change the ESA.
:tup: That's why I said work on the ESA!
And what do you suggest?

1st on the List
Eliminate the ability for antihunting groups to sue and get reimbursed, the anti-hunting groups are getting rich off taxpayers by sueing over the ESA.

2nd
Require proof a specie is critically engangered before it can be given ESA protection. Case in point, 60,000 wolves in existence in North America and they were give ESA protection. Meanwhile caribou are going extinct because of ESA protections on wolves!
Case 3: Wild Horses:
Wild horses are protected under another law, not the ESA.

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Re: Trump Administration Lifts Ban on Imports of Elephant Hunting Trophies
« Reply #14 on: November 17, 2017, 11:14:08 AM »
I'm waiting for him to work on the ESA!  :tup:
Only congress can change the ESA.
:tup: That's why I said work on the ESA!
And what do you suggest?
1st on the List
Eliminate the ability for antihunting groups to sue and get reimbursed, the anti-hunting groups are getting rich off taxpayers by sueing over the ESA.

2nd
Require proof a specie is critically engangered before it can be given ESA protection. Case in point, 60,000 wolves in existence in North America and they were give ESA protection. Meanwhile caribou are going extinct because of ESA protections on wolves!
So essentially your saying since there's 60,000 wolves in North America they shouldn't be endangered anywhere. Does that mean since mountain lions/cougars are endangered in Florida they should be endangered nationwide?

It seems like you want an all or nothing approach vs. the regional approach we currently have.

 

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