Free: Contests & Raffles.
A couple of things. They were glassing with their scopes. From a Hunter Education standpoint, that wasn't good. Overall, I liked the video. My question is why would you want to explain what we do to anti-hunters? They don't care why we do what we do. They want to end it, period. I think maybe the OP meant non-hunters, yes?
You never glass animals with your scope. You're aiming your gun at something you may not want to destroy. That's why we spend good money on binos.
Quote from: pianoman9701 on February 05, 2019, 08:41:56 AMYou never glass animals with your scope. You're aiming your gun at something you may not want to destroy. That's why we spend good money on binos.So...when exactly does pointing a rifle with the intention to shoot an animal devolve into glassing? Is it "glassing" 1 second before taking the shot? 10 seconds? A minute? Two minutes?What about using range finding reticles or the newer scopes with built in laser range finders?Yes, I'm going to be sitting behind my Swaros when glassing, but if a couple bucks or rams pop up in some mixed terrain where they could disappear in a matter of moments behind brush or the terrain...I'm on the gun and picking out which one I want to take, if any. Sometimes that's all the time you get.
On the subject of non-hunters, there has been quite a bit of research on what arguments for hunting resonate with them. This movie had a ton to do with firearms which doesn't make the top of the list, or the list at all. The movie was well done, I just think it resonates with hunters much more than non-hunters, particularly those that aren't firearms owners.If I wanted to talk to a non-hunter about hunting i would start with the end, my family enjoying high quality food that was ethically sourced.
Quote from: Stein on February 05, 2019, 09:43:59 AMOn the subject of non-hunters, there has been quite a bit of research on what arguments for hunting resonate with them. This movie had a ton to do with firearms which doesn't make the top of the list, or the list at all. The movie was well done, I just think it resonates with hunters much more than non-hunters, particularly those that aren't firearms owners.If I wanted to talk to a non-hunter about hunting i would start with the end, my family enjoying high quality food that was ethically sourced.This. This has always been the beginning of my conversations. I fully admit that I am a meat eater and that I will always be a meat eater. Because of that, I've chosen to take responsibility for the meat that I eat as opposed to going to Safeway and buying it. I then go onto numbers of animals needed to feed people, and ethics, and quality, and etc. etc. etc... Usually works fairly well.
Pman is talking about basic gun safety that is taught in hunters ed and to other hunters. Say you got a hunter glassing hillside safety off sees something gets excited pulls trigger oh crap it was a person too late.or having a accidental discharge crap too lateThe fact that other people are jumping on him saying that is ridiculous is why as hunters are out worst enemies.
Quote from: huntnfmly on February 05, 2019, 10:49:51 AMPman is talking about basic gun safety that is taught in hunters ed and to other hunters. Say you got a hunter glassing hillside safety off sees something gets excited pulls trigger oh crap it was a person too late.or having a accidental discharge crap too lateThe fact that other people are jumping on him saying that is ridiculous is why as hunters are out worst enemies.Except nothing like what you mentioned (which I agree is dangerously unacceptable) was shown in this clip. And I'm pretty sure he and I know each other well enough that he knows my input was conversational, not confrontational.
Quote from: Bushcraft on February 05, 2019, 11:03:37 AMQuote from: huntnfmly on February 05, 2019, 10:49:51 AMPman is talking about basic gun safety that is taught in hunters ed and to other hunters. Say you got a hunter glassing hillside safety off sees something gets excited pulls trigger oh crap it was a person too late.or having a accidental discharge crap too lateThe fact that other people are jumping on him saying that is ridiculous is why as hunters are out worst enemies.Except nothing like what you mentioned (which I agree is dangerously unacceptable) was shown in this clip. And I'm pretty sure he and I know each other well enough that he knows my input was conversational, not confrontational.I agree that wasn't shown on the video i was just pointing out the reasoning for not doing it
I am not sure.I think it gives the impression its easy to walk out in the woods and find animals.We all know it takes countless hours and resources much of the time to harvest a animal. And really for a lot of hunters there are more important aspects to why we do it than the harvest. I think a video which shows the preparation, complexities, practicing and planning without a harvest at all would be more realistic in Washington at least.
I have no problem with vegans and vegetarians that are against hunting. I'm also not worried about them because they are such a small group.For meat-eating anti-hunters I ask them why it is wrong for me to hunt but it's ok for them to pay illegals to slaughter factory raised animals throughout the year. I don't have to explain a damn thing to meat-eating anti-hunters. They need to explain their views to me, not the other way around.
Not untrue, but the meat eating anti hunter doesn’t have whole segments of society trying to take away their right to eat meat, or attacking the way they procure their meat like hunters do. The best thing we as hunters can do for ourselves and hunters in general is to have fact based and intelligent conversations with non and anti hunters to normalize what we do and stop the attack. We are often our own worst enemies and attitudes like that are part of why.
Quote from: 7mmfan on February 06, 2019, 03:40:24 PMNot untrue, but the meat eating anti hunter doesn’t have whole segments of society trying to take away their right to eat meat, or attacking the way they procure their meat like hunters do. The best thing we as hunters can do for ourselves and hunters in general is to have fact based and intelligent conversations with non and anti hunters to normalize what we do and stop the attack. We are often our own worst enemies and attitudes like that are part of why.Look if someone asks me why I enjoy hunting I don't straight tell them to f-off even if I feel like it. I simply ask why they eat meat if they feel hunting is wrong when they are paying illegals to kill animals for them. Usually it makes them think and to this day I have yet to hear an logical explanation.
I just prepare a good meal of game or fish I harvested and give to non hunters. Have done this when I lived all over the US, Europe, Africa, Russia. I explain how healthy the meat and fish are, the fact I handled and butchered myself ( best sanitation). No hormones, antibiotics etc and the animal and fish had an exponentially better quality of life vs farm raised.Stress the fact that you practice and a quick humane ethical kill is utmost importance.I think I have swayed quite a few urban dwellers to understand the importance of hunting and fishing.Have had quite a few express interest in hunting and fishing