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Proposal to Amend WDFW allowed weapons in Firearm Restriction Areas
CP:
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--- Quote from: CP on February 07, 2020, 06:33:13 AM ---I’d like to see this change. I put together a 450 Bushmaster pistol for firearm restricted hunting. Seems pretty stupid that a rifle in the same caliber is illegal.
But if they made this change I’d have get another upper.
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Unless something changed, that wouldn’t be legal based on my conversations with WDFW. The “revolver type handgun” wording would rule out an AR pistol. I was told (probably 10 years ago) that not even a single shot pistol like a TC Contender was legal in a FRA. I went round and round about my 44 Mag contender not being allowed, but my 45-70 revolver was.
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No, your Contender isn't legal, and it still wouldn't be legal under the changes proposed above. But my 450 BM is a "semiautomatic handgun of .40 (10 mm) caliber or larger" and therefore legal. I think they made that change last year.
yorketransport:
--- Quote from: Bob33 on February 09, 2020, 08:44:55 AM ---Here is the current WAC.
(d) Modern firearm tag holders may hunt during established modern firearm seasons with bows and arrows; crossbows; muzzleloaders; revolver-type handguns; semiautomatic handguns of .40 (10 mm) caliber or larger; or shotguns, so long as the equipment and ammunition complies with department rules.
https://apps.leg.wa.gov/wac/default.aspx?cite=220-413-180
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--- Quote from: CP on February 09, 2020, 05:07:32 PM ---
Unless something changed, that wouldn’t be legal based on my conversations with WDFW. The “revolver type handgun” wording would rule out an AR pistol. I was told (probably 10 years ago) that not even a single shot pistol like a TC Contender was legal in a FRA. I went round and round about my 44 Mag contender not being allowed, but my 45-70 revolver was.
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No, your Contender isn't legal, and it still wouldn't be legal under the changes proposed above. But my 450 BM is a "semiautomatic handgun of .40 (10 mm) caliber or larger" and therefore legal. I think they made that change last year.
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Well, look at that! Good to see some movement in that department.
konradcountry:
The big difference with the Eastern states is that the restricted areas in Wa are small and mostly privately owned by non-hunters. In fact a lot of the islands have transplants that are anti-hunter.
The existing pistol regs don't make sense and they haven't changed them. Technically you can hunt elk in our state with a 38 special.
A lot of people have asked that 223 be allowed for deer and that has been ignored.
I would just build an AR pistol. They are quite controllable and you can keep them loaded in your vehicle.
Chad McMullen:
Let's get back on topic here, gentlemen -- "pistol-cartridge" and "straight-wall cartridge" rifles in FRAs...not bottleneck .223 pistols, or the unsuitability of .38 special, or why .223/5.56 might be appropriate, or the "impossibility" of WDFW amending the current FRA firearm list because they haven't adopted some previous suggestion in the past.
Clearly they sometimes DO modify the rules when there's a sufficient argument and they hear enough voices in favor...maybe
CP:
Okay, back on topic. I suggest some changes to your proposed change:
rifles firearms chambered for straight-wall cartridges discussed below; or shotguns, so long as the equipment and ammunition complies with department rules. Allowable straight-wall cartridges fired from rifles firearms shall have a minimum diameter of 0.35 inches. Legal cartridges must have a minimum case length of 1.25 inches and a maximum case length 2.25 inches. .38 special, .44 special, and similar cartridges of reduced energy are not legal for use on big game.
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