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bigtex:
--- Quote from: wags on April 11, 2020, 07:03:37 PM ---On a different issue, but relating to the Department's charter; How can the department require a license in order to pickup seaweed? Seaweed is not wildlife.
I suppose the Department could also require a license for berry picking or mushroom picking if you follow along that line of logic. This is why we need to be able to challenge unlawful actions by the Department.
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It wasn't WDFW who came up with and required a seaweed license, it was the state legislature. In fact, DNR is the actually "manager" of seaweed in WA, WDFW is simply the enforcement of DNR's seaweed laws.
It all goes back to 1993. In 1993 there was a bill that passed the state legislature dealing with seaweed, at that point there were no seaweed laws in WA. It was this bill which put seaweed management under the purview of DNR. It was this bill which also established the 10 pound limit. No fish/wildlife/shellfish bag limit is established in law, rather they are established in rules. So whereas WDFW can come out tomorrow and saw you could shoot 10 deer in a year, it would actually take the state legislature to increase the seaweed limit. In this same bill it also established that WDFW shall be the enforcement of the new seaweed laws.
Also in 1993 a separate bill dealing with fishing licenses was passed. It was this bill which required a shellfish/seaweed license in order to harvest seaweed.
It is not agencies who expand their scope, it is the state legislature which forces additional mandates (often unfunded) upon them. This is why WDFW has to now manage what is being sold in pet stores, what invasive species are entering the state on boats, etc.
bornhunter:
--- Quote from: DOUBLELUNG on February 11, 2021, 10:53:02 AM ---Having been on this site nearly from the beginning, long before the current forum rules and now; I will say I 1000% support the current forum rules. They make this site a much better place.
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Platensek-po:
--- Quote from: wags on April 11, 2020, 07:03:37 PM ---The Charter of the WDFW is to manage wildlife from a biological perspective. I will try to find the exact verbiage and post later. That means what they are doing now is not for biological reasons, but is political, at the behest (threat) of the Governor. I think any activity by the Department outside of their Charter is illegal and we should be able to challenge them on it via this forum. Some people might interpret that kind of dialogue as advocating breaking the law; I would disagree; this is essential conversation in a free Country.
On a different issue, but relating to the Department's charter; How can the department require a license in order to pickup seaweed? Seaweed is not wildlife.
I suppose the Department could also require a license for berry picking or mushroom picking if you follow along that line of logic. This is why we need to be able to challenge unlawful actions by the Department.
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You can’t go to public forests and cut down and harvest trees either. It makes sense to me. Then again I’m not going to go out and collect 10lbs of seaweed so... on topic I like the distinctions posted. I agree it’s fine to talk about illegal activity but not incite it. It can definitely be a pretty fine line as Congress is finding out
Russ McDonald:
This is a post about ruoes of the forum. If you want to discuss other things about agnecies olease feel free to start a post in Advocacy, agencies.
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Dan-o:
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--- Quote from: DOUBLELUNG on February 11, 2021, 10:53:02 AM ---Having been on this site nearly from the beginning, long before the current forum rules and now; I will say I 1000% support the current forum rules. They make this site a much better place.
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