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Re: Idaho's affect on Montana for 2021???
« Reply #15 on: December 16, 2020, 07:45:06 PM »
Are you sure that ID will hurt odds in other states?  ID is usually everyone's "backup" state.  But I have 6 friends that have already bought ID tags that usually would have waited to see if they would have drawn MT first.  But they didn't want to take a chance of not drawing MT and then no tags being left in ID so they bought them early.
BUT..... They just bumped other hunters over to applying for Montana. I absolutely believe Montana will receive record applicants next year and they will then jack up prices. Idaho was kind of our price buffer but that totally went down the toilet.
 
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Re: Idaho's affect on Montana for 2021???
« Reply #16 on: December 16, 2020, 07:45:51 PM »
Are you sure that ID will hurt odds in other states?  ID is usually everyone's "backup" state.  But I have 6 friends that have already bought ID tags that usually would have waited to see if they would have drawn MT first.  But they didn't want to take a chance of not drawing MT and then no tags being left in ID so they bought them early.
  :yeah: ID has always been the redheaded step child of western hunting. Its for sure gonna add some names into some other states but I don't think its gonna be enough to move the meter significantly  :twocents:
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Re: Idaho's affect on Montana for 2021???
« Reply #17 on: December 16, 2020, 07:47:40 PM »
Are you sure that ID will hurt odds in other states?  ID is usually everyone's "backup" state.  But I have 6 friends that have already bought ID tags that usually would have waited to see if they would have drawn MT first.  But they didn't want to take a chance of not drawing MT and then no tags being left in ID so they bought them early.
BUT..... They just bumped other hunters over to applying for Montana. I absolutely believe Montana will receive record applicants next year and they will then jack up prices. Idaho was kind of our price buffer but that totally went down the toilet.
that was gonna be the case regardless of what idaho did. MT is cool again and they seen some steadily increasing numbers annually.
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Re: Idaho's affect on Montana for 2021???
« Reply #18 on: December 16, 2020, 08:25:28 PM »
It will be tough to identify causes of increased applicants...Idaho changing, increasing tolerance of Montana's prices, general increases in all states apps and western big game hunting, covid, the government handing out lots of free checks...too many factors...but we can all safely count on worse odds for every state we apply in.  Appreciate any tag you get, and plan accordingly for decreased odds  :twocents:
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Re: Idaho's affect on Montana for 2021???
« Reply #19 on: December 16, 2020, 08:48:38 PM »
It will be tough to identify causes of increased applicants...Idaho changing, increasing tolerance of Montana's prices, general increases in all states apps and western big game hunting, covid, the government handing out lots of free checks...too many factors...but we can all safely count on worse odds for every state we apply in.  Appreciate any tag you get, and plan accordingly for decreased odds  :twocents:

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Re: Idaho's affect on Montana for 2021???
« Reply #20 on: December 19, 2020, 08:50:29 AM »
Waited 3 hours in the morning of the 1st, got my pick for deer but not elk, so was going to put in for MT this year but figuring draw odds would be a same or worse, and wanted to make sure I got a elk tag, I logged back in the evening of the 1st and got an Idaho elk tag and get to learn a new area!  So because Idaho change there will be one less in MT now

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Re: Idaho's affect on Montana for 2021???
« Reply #21 on: December 25, 2020, 06:24:51 PM »
After I logged into the Idaho system, had my elk tag in my cart and hit the checkout button, which spun until it timed out and then kicked me out to the back of the line, I ended up with a whitetail tag (luckily my son got one too...both for the same unit so we at least have that) and my main elk hunting partner, who got his tag while I was in the checkout from hell line, will be going solo, so a few days later I said, "let's to go Montana!" Our group will be 4 guys, none of which planned on hunting Montana next year, so we will be in the drawing, adding to the "against all odds" thanks to Idaho.

I do hope Idaho gets their system fixed, and would rather see it be draw only for non-residence with the option of a group application than their "over the counter" tags which screwed a lot of groups/family's out of a traditional hunt. IF it really is over-run with hunters (both NR's and residents) then make it a draw only for NR's...at least groups won't get screwed and can look at other states if not drawn for Idaho (which would be smart to make it an early Dec. NR draw before other states).

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Re: Idaho's affect on Montana for 2021???
« Reply #22 on: December 25, 2020, 07:06:40 PM »
There's still 4,100 deer tags left and some absolutely stellar units available still.  Idaho is still on the rebound from 2016/17 but so much opportunity on the table still just ripe for the picking.
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Re: Idaho's affect on Montana for 2021???
« Reply #23 on: December 25, 2020, 10:31:56 PM »
I personally love Idaho and fully support all 4 of you going to hunt Montana...way better hunting over there!


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Re: Idaho's affect on Montana for 2021???
« Reply #24 on: December 25, 2020, 10:37:55 PM »
I personally love Idaho and fully support all 4 of you going to hunt Montana...way better hunting over there!


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Re: Idaho's affect on Montana for 2021???
« Reply #25 on: December 26, 2020, 07:17:05 AM »
It will effect all four states in this corner.This year will be very small effects.Hard to say in years to come as numbers may change.Its a slippery slope that may be ok now ,future who knows.Its kinda like going down that dirt road that doesn't have a turnaround.

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Re: Idaho's affect on Montana for 2021???
« Reply #26 on: December 26, 2020, 07:21:50 AM »
I personally love Idaho and fully support all 4 of you going to hunt Montana...way better hunting over there!


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hey now! Some of us want to do both  :chuckle: since I already have an idaho tag i encourage anyone thinking montana to look hard at some new idaho units first  :tup: :chuckle:
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Re: Idaho's affect on Montana for 2021???
« Reply #27 on: December 26, 2020, 07:34:21 AM »
I personally love Idaho and fully support all 4 of you going to hunt Montana...way better hunting over there!


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hey now! Some of us want to do both  :chuckle: since I already have an idaho tag i encourage anyone thinking montana to look hard at some new idaho units first  :tup: :chuckle:
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Re: Idaho's affect on Montana for 2021???
« Reply #28 on: December 26, 2020, 08:50:26 AM »
I think Montana will be an every other year draw for most in the very near future.

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Re: Idaho's affect on Montana for 2021???
« Reply #29 on: December 26, 2020, 10:14:03 AM »
I usually hunt the north part of 39
Didn’t want to put in for Idaho until later in the year. Probably won’t happen. Would like to see the deer recovery before I spend the money

 


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