My son's bull 1st place

[rasbo]

My boy is happy,his bull took 1st place in this year's competition at Puyallup sportsman show cascade Roosevelt elk  356 2/8 .I didn't know there were different Roosevelt elk.  He won a handgun 9mm Smith and wesson.

[Bucks2Ducks]

WOW
Did I miss the story on this bull?

[Timberstalker]

That bull is awesome.
I was wondering where this bull would end up score wise.

[hawks33]

That's an awesome bull! Congrats to your son.

[Special T]

Masher!

[rasbo]

That bull is awesome.
I was wondering where this bull would end up score wise.

he would have scored 371 if he was shot on the other side of i-5 

[Wanttohuntmore]

Nice!  Congrats!  He'll have trouble topping that!

[trophyhunt]

Great bull, especially with a bow!  I didn't realize the rosie and cascade were scored differently??? 

[C-Money]

Excellent! Congrats to your son!

[Karl Blanchard]

Great bull, especially with a bow!  I didn't realize the rosie and cascade were scored differently???

all elk are scored the same. Different book minimums but the scoring process is the same.

[jackelope]

Great bull, especially with a bow!  I didn't realize the rosie and cascade were scored differently???

all elk are scored the same. Different book minimums but the scoring process is the same.

^^^

The northwest big game record book calls him a cascade roosevelt elk because he was killed east of I-5. Boone and Crockett, Pope and Young etc will consider him a Rocky I believe for the same reason.
Stud bull regardless of where he was killed. Congrats to your son.

[Karl Blanchard]

Great bull, especially with a bow!  I didn't realize the rosie and cascade were scored differently???

all elk are scored the same. Different book minimums but the scoring process is the same.

^^^

The northwest big game record book calls him a cascade roosevelt elk because he was killed east of I-5. Boone and Crockett, Pope and Young etc will consider him a Rocky I believe for the same reason.
Stud bull regardless of where he was killed. Congrats to your son.

  cranker bull!

[RB]

Wow that's awesome! 

[pianoman9701]

Saw that. It's an awesome animal. 

[Ridgerunner]

awesome bull, any other photos of the other high placing critters?

[WapitiTalk1]

Excellent! A huge congrats to the young hunter.

[nwhunter]

Great bull, especially with a bow!  I didn't realize the rosie and cascade were scored differently???

all elk are scored the same. Different book minimums but the scoring process is the same.

True roosevelts, bulls west of I-5, don't get any deductions above g-4's because they typically crown and thats still considered a typical for roosevelts. Bulls east of I-5 are considered Rocky's so scored the same as eastside bulls so any nontypical points are deducts...

[Tbar]

Cascade Roosevelt use the Roosevelt scoring system where crowns are not deducted.

[trophyhunt]

Great bull, especially with a bow!  I didn't realize the rosie and cascade were scored differently???

all elk are scored the same. Different book minimums but the scoring process is the same.

True roosevelts, bulls west of I-5, don't get any deductions above g-4's because they typically crown and thats still considered a typical for roosevelts. Bulls east of I-5 are considered Rocky's so scored the same as eastside bulls so any nontypical points are deducts...

Thanks for clarifying Scott, I thought all elk were scored the same way but sounds like a difference with Rosie’s.

[nwhunter]

Cascade Roosevelt use the Roosevelt scoring system where crowns are not deducted.

But the only group that recognizes cascade roosevelts are the Washington Oregon record book guys. Boone and Crockett and Pope and Young do not just like they dont recognize cascade blacktails (benchleg) vs true coastal blacktails... The record books that really matter look at cascade roosevelts as Rockies only and score them as Rockies with normal deducts ..

[rasbo]

Great bull, especially with a bow!  I didn't realize the rosie and cascade were scored differently???

all elk are scored the same. Different book minimums but the scoring process is the same.

west of i5 he would score more as a non typical or something like that.  My son didn't care

[Tbar]

Cascade Roosevelt use the Roosevelt scoring system where crowns are not deducted.

But the only group that recognizes cascade roosevelts are the Washington Oregon record book guys. Boone and Crockett and Pope and Young do not just like they dont recognize cascade blacktails (benchleg) vs true coastal blacktails... The record books that really matter look at cascade roosevelts as Rockies only and score them as Rockies with normal deducts ..

I live in Washington state.  I also know that there is intermixed genetic makeup of many herds.  Roosevelt subspecies did not cease to exist at the construction of i5.  West of the crest is a really unique mix of both subspecies with different dominant characteristics.  I am not a fan of overemphasized focus on score but appreciate that there is recognition of the west of the crest and east of the interstate even if they aren't in a category that matters(to you).

[nwwanderer]

Special regardless of scoring/human stuff, thanks!!!

[nwhunter]

I wholeheartedly agree its a great bull and mentioning the true scoring methods and rules wasn't meant to take away from a great bull at all. I was just trying to clarify what I have had to figure out because for some guys "The Book" matters a bunch and to others not so much. Boone and Crockett record book doesn't recognize cascade roosevelts in a category of their own so they are mixed in with the Rocky Mountain elk and scored that way with deducts for any nontypical points .. That being said some of those bulls are very impressive with the mass and coloration they have because of the roosevelt genes they carry....

[trophyhunt]

   Yup, great bull!

[Sundance]

was that under the typical or non-typical category?

[h2ofowlr]

Looks like a nice one.

[time2hunt]

Awesome bull A big Rosie is on the bucket list 


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[KNOPHISH]

Very nice, congrats. Any field pics?

[rasbo]

was that under the typical or non-typical category?

typical,

[HUNTINCOUPLE]

Great Great bull! Congrats to both of you and family! A trophy to be displayed for generations after generations!

[jkononen]

https://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,264091.0.html
This bull right?

[rasbo]

https://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,264091.0.html
This bull right?

yes it is

[Karl Blanchard]

Great bull, especially with a bow!  I didn't realize the rosie and cascade were scored differently???

all elk are scored the same. Different book minimums but the scoring process is the same.

True roosevelts, bulls west of I-5, don't get any deductions above g-4's because they typically crown and thats still considered a typical for roosevelts. Bulls east of I-5 are considered Rocky's so scored the same as eastside bulls so any nontypical points are deducts...

well all be....learn something new every day 

[Sundance]

was that under the typical or non-typical category?

typical,

Nice! New #5 or 6, that freaking sweet!