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which glass is best
grundy53:
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--- Quote from: Karl Blanchard on February 23, 2022, 08:28:36 AM ---Its definitely the erector system Stein. Ive done tracking tests on quite a few vx5 and 6's the last few years and every single one starts walking horizontally.
Over on rokslide there is a member who is doing very in depth testing of scopes. Its definitely worth jumping over there and doing a deep dive. Lota of scopes still to come. He isn't biased and he doesn't pull punches.
https://www.rokslide.com/forums/forums/rifle-scope-field-evaluations.133/
That link takes you to a main page. I recommend reading the green link about how the tests are conducted and then below that link are the seperate scope evals.
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I've been following this thread. Very eye opening. I have a feeling it's going to get pretty expensive for me...
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one of my all time favorite scopes ever is my old mark 4. Ive owned a lot of good leupolds over the years. With that said, I can't wait for Form to start drop testing the vx line and breaking the internet. Leupold needs a good metaphorical slapping across the back of the head.
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Yeah, I've always been a Leupold guy. Probably because my dad and all of his buddies were. But it's probably telling that everyone had to sight in their rifles every year. Not just check zero. I was surprised when I got a Nightforce and it actually held zero for a whole year and I took it out and shot it through out the year. The Nightforce is their low end offering too (SHV).
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thinkingman:
--- Quote from: Karl Blanchard on February 23, 2022, 04:54:45 PM ---
--- Quote from: grundy53 on February 23, 2022, 04:49:00 PM ---
--- Quote from: Karl Blanchard on February 23, 2022, 08:28:36 AM ---Its definitely the erector system Stein. Ive done tracking tests on quite a few vx5 and 6's the last few years and every single one starts walking horizontally.
Over on rokslide there is a member who is doing very in depth testing of scopes. Its definitely worth jumping over there and doing a deep dive. Lota of scopes still to come. He isn't biased and he doesn't pull punches.
https://www.rokslide.com/forums/forums/rifle-scope-field-evaluations.133/
That link takes you to a main page. I recommend reading the green link about how the tests are conducted and then below that link are the seperate scope evals.
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I've been following this thread. Very eye opening. I have a feeling it's going to get pretty expensive for me...
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one of my all time favorite scopes ever is my old mark 4. Ive owned a lot of good leupolds over the years. With that said, I can't wait for Form to start drop testing the vx line and breaking the internet. Leupold needs a good metaphorical slapping across the back of the head.
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The whole state of Oregon will protest that result!
Funny, I've never trusted Leupold scopes and whenever I bring that up, I feel like I'm Tucker Carlson on The View.
Stein:
The VX line is priced similarly to Vortex mid to upper and likely will perform similar. The model for those is you drop it, it either shifts and you re-zero or you break it, send it in and they fix it. It's pretty common for people to be concerned if they give their scope a drop or smack it on something. I don't know many people that think their scope they paid less than $1,000 is going to be super rugged and withstand multiple drops without losing zero.
That said, it looks like the zero drop test is claiming victims in the $1,000 - $2,000+ range and that is something that concerns me as I look for my next scope. Paying that kind of money I would want something that tracks and holds zero reliably.
I would expect sub $1,000 Vortex and Leupolds (and any other brand for that matter) to both track relatively poorly and fail the drop test. Put them on your rifle, zero, don't touch them and don't drop them, check your zero when you travel or have reason to believe they have been subject to impact. That's basically how they have been used historically and how they should be used today. Works great for the 100-300 yard shots the vast majority of game are taken with.
Karl Blanchard:
I'd agree with most of that except for the part about people not having absolute confidence in their sub 1k scopes. Id argue the opposite. I think you'd be hard pressed to find a guy who wouldn't argue to his grave that his vortex razor isn't the end all be all to rifle scopes.
grundy53:
--- Quote from: Stein on February 24, 2022, 10:45:26 AM ---The VX line is priced similarly to Vortex mid to upper and likely will perform similar. The model for those is you drop it, it either shifts and you re-zero or you break it, send it in and they fix it. It's pretty common for people to be concerned if they give their scope a drop or smack it on something. I don't know many people that think their scope they paid less than $1,000 is going to be super rugged and withstand multiple drops without losing zero.
That said, it looks like the zero drop test is claiming victims in the $1,000 - $2,000+ range and that is something that concerns me as I look for my next scope. Paying that kind of money I would want something that tracks and holds zero reliably.
I would expect sub $1,000 Vortex and Leupolds (and any other brand for that matter) to both track relatively poorly and fail the drop test. Put them on your rifle, zero, don't touch them and don't drop them, check your zero when you travel or have reason to believe they have been subject to impact. That's basically how they have been used historically and how they should be used today. Works great for the 100-300 yard shots the vast majority of game are taken with.
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The drops aren't what concern me with the sub $1,000 scopes. It's the loss of zero from just riding around in a truck. Which is how most of us get to our hunting spots. It was eye opening how many lost zero while riding in the back seat of Form's truck. But you are right about the scopes in the $1,000-$2,000 range. I would expect more durability.
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