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Oak creek open up for natives
Buzzsaw461:
Well said:
--- Quote from: trophyhunt on March 20, 2022, 05:56:21 PM ---
--- Quote from: rtspring on March 20, 2022, 04:43:47 PM ---
--- Quote from: trophyhunt on March 20, 2022, 10:15:51 AM ---No longer will I bash any non natives for sneaking in early in that area, natives are allowed inside the gate to gather antlers, and harvest elk if it is within their time line. I guess this isn’t new but it’s the first I heard of it. Such BS
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How do we blame the “indians”, when we the “white” people gave them that!!!! See where I’m coming from? Its not their fault. Hell give me the option of hunting elk year round and I’m gonna kill some chit. And many many many on here would do the same damn thing.
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If you had the right to shoot 2 point mule deer, but you knew it wasn’t good for the herd, would you still do it? If you had the right to pick up antlers in winter grounds where the elk were stressed, and your encroachment made it worse for them, would you do it? If you could hunt at night and get away with it would you? If you could break tribal laws to sell jerky would you? My point….. and you already know this, just because you can, is it right? There is a f&@king reason why we should leave the elk alone this time of year, doesn’t matter what race you are. Damn
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trophyhunt:
--- Quote from: snake on March 20, 2022, 06:11:52 PM ---They don't walk more than 20 feet from a road so calm down.
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:chuckle: thank God!!
rtspring:
--- Quote from: trophyhunt on March 20, 2022, 05:56:21 PM ---
--- Quote from: rtspring on March 20, 2022, 04:43:47 PM ---
--- Quote from: trophyhunt on March 20, 2022, 10:15:51 AM ---No longer will I bash any non natives for sneaking in early in that area, natives are allowed inside the gate to gather antlers, and harvest elk if it is within their time line. I guess this isn’t new but it’s the first I heard of it. Such BS
--- End quote ---
How do we blame the “indians”, when we the “white” people gave them that!!!! See where I’m coming from? Its not their fault. Hell give me the option of hunting elk year round and I’m gonna kill some chit. And many many many on here would do the same damn thing.
--- End quote ---
If you had the right to shoot 2 point mule deer, but you knew it wasn’t good for the herd, would you still do it? If you had the right to pick up antlers in winter grounds where the elk were stressed, and your encroachment made it worse for them, would you do it? If you could hunt at night and get away with it would you? If you could break tribal laws to sell jerky would you? My point….. and you already know this, just because you can, is it right? There is a f&@king reason why we should leave the elk alone this time of year, doesn’t matter what race you are. Damn
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Your “damn” right I would. Its a dog eat dog world these days! Especially the “hunting community”. Like I said “ we gave them those rights!!!””” So blame the people who gave them the rights to get antlers early!
If you could buy $1.00 a gallon gas but no one else could, would you? Your damn right you would.
We can play the “stress” card all we want! But if by that thinking we shouldn’t be chasing el around for 3-4 months in the fall…. Way more stress than some shed hunters. Save the, well elk are weak in the spring speech. I don’t think thousands of elk die from shed hunters!!!!
cem3434:
Damn Jerry, chill out as we don't need you blowing a gasket. :chuckle:
We all know you're passionate about hunting and conservation, but we need to figure out how to team up (somehow) with the natives. They have the "right" to hunt, whereas we only have the "privilege" to hunt in the eyes of the law. I agree with you on doing the right thing versus what your allowed to do, but again they have the "right" to do so where we do not.
If WDFW has their way, all the elk hunting will be shutdown in that area in the next 10 years as there wont be a sustainable population to support all of the 4 legged predators. Just look at the slashing of the permits after years of overharveting, showing they have no ability to manage the herds while predator populations continue to thrive. If we can't get on the same page to fight WDFW and all of the antis, natives will be the only people still allowed to hunt in this state in the near future. :twocents:
rtspring:
--- Quote from: rtspring on March 20, 2022, 06:56:19 PM ---
--- Quote from: trophyhunt on March 20, 2022, 05:56:21 PM ---
--- Quote from: rtspring on March 20, 2022, 04:43:47 PM ---
--- Quote from: trophyhunt on March 20, 2022, 10:15:51 AM ---No longer will I bash any non natives for sneaking in early in that area, natives are allowed inside the gate to gather antlers, and harvest elk if it is within their time line. I guess this isn’t new but it’s the first I heard of it. Such BS
--- End quote ---
How do we blame the “indians”, when we the “white” people gave them that!!!! See where I’m coming from? Its not their fault. Hell give me the option of hunting elk year round and I’m gonna kill some chit. And many many many on here would do the same damn thing.
--- End quote ---
If you had the right to shoot 2 point mule deer, but you knew it wasn’t good for the herd, would you still do it? If you had the right to pick up antlers in winter grounds where the elk were stressed, and your encroachment made it worse for them, would you do it? If you could hunt at night and get away with it would you? If you could break tribal laws to sell jerky would you? My point….. and you already know this, just because you can, is it right? There is a f&@king reason why we should leave the elk alone this time of year, doesn’t matter what race you are. Damn
--- End quote ---
Your “damn” right I would. Its a dog eat dog world these days! Especially the “hunting community”. Like I said “ we gave them those rights!!!””” So blame the people who gave them the rights to get antlers early!
If you could buy $1.00 a gallon gas but no one else could, would you? Your damn right you would.
We can play the “stress” card all we want! But if by that thinking we shouldn’t be chasing el around for 3-4 months in the fall…. Way more stress than some shed hunters. Save the, well elk are weak in the spring speech. I don’t think thousands of elk die from shed hunters!!!!
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I completely see your side!!! But sometimes look at who caused the problem not those that gained rights from the people who put the problems into law.
Some people think we shouldn’t hunt
some people think we shouldn’t kill pregnant cow elk
Some people think we should kill predators! But the law says we can so guess what???? WE DO IT ANYWAYS!!!
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