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Was anyone notified for a permit last year that had been turned in? Wondering how that process works and when that happens.
Quote from: RockChuck on June 15, 2022, 08:18:31 PMWas anyone notified for a permit last year that had been turned in? Wondering how that process works and when that happens.Wdfw calls the next person in line once the permit is turned back in. Not sure their timeline on when they call There's a list of who's next in line.
Quote from: MtnMuley on June 16, 2022, 05:57:10 AMQuote from: RockChuck on June 15, 2022, 08:18:31 PMWas anyone notified for a permit last year that had been turned in? Wondering how that process works and when that happens.Wdfw calls the next person in line once the permit is turned back in. Not sure their timeline on when they call There's a list of who's next in line.Ok thank you, so anytime before the permit turn in deadline.
I know this has been asked, but is there anyway to find out where you were on the draw list?It would interesting to see if you were close or out in left field.
Yeah, if those tags aren't being reallocated in some way then the people complaining about others drawing multiple tags in one year might have a point. I'm surprised (but not really) that the returned tag policy isn't clearly outlined. I know it is in other western states. Just sent the licensing department some questions about it.
I drew the Blue Mtn. Foothills Late Muzzy tag, the Blue Creek Muzzy tag and a Blue Creek Antlerless tag. So, I called to see if I could surrender two of them and just keep the late tag. I did this thinking it would free those up for others to be awarded. I was sad to find out that while I can get my points back if i surrender those tags, nobody else will draw them. So, I took 3 tags out of the pool and will only be keeping one. Kind of a bummer it goes like that. Wonder how often that happens?
Quote from: pickardjw on June 16, 2022, 09:28:18 AMYeah, if those tags aren't being reallocated in some way then the people complaining about others drawing multiple tags in one year might have a point. I'm surprised (but not really) that the returned tag policy isn't clearly outlined. I know it is in other western states. Just sent the licensing department some questions about it. I'm not sure anyone has legitimate grounds to complain about other people drawing multiple tags. Are we expected to apply for only one permit per year?
Where is the written rule for returning permits? Can't find it in the regs. Link?
That’s what I think. It’s double screwing those that didn’t draw.First it’s a tag they could award to someone that didn’t draw.Second is the person that returns it gets their points back and are up against everyone the next year with their original point total plus one making everyone else odds worse.
WAC 220-412-080(1)(h) says, in part, as follows:"(h) If for any reason a successful applicant chooses not to participate in the hunt, they are eligible for point restoration. The successful applicant seeking point restoration must return the special hunting season permit to the department of fish and wildlife Olympia headquarters two weeks before the opening day of the special hunting season so it can be reissued."Sure sounds like the WAC contemplates the tags being reissued.
Quote from: WSU on June 16, 2022, 11:26:57 AMWAC 220-412-080(1)(h) says, in part, as follows:"(h) If for any reason a successful applicant chooses not to participate in the hunt, they are eligible for point restoration. The successful applicant seeking point restoration must return the special hunting season permit to the department of fish and wildlife Olympia headquarters two weeks before the opening day of the special hunting season so it can be reissued."Sure sounds like the WAC contemplates the tags being reissued."Can" be reissued is different then "must" be reissued.Sent from my SM-G973U using Tapatalk
we crossed this bridge last year too, and multiple people had emails including myself from the dept stating they would be reissuing the tags, and as bullblaster posted, there is a WAC that states it. I find it really interesting that throughout this entire forum, nobody has a friend or a friend of a friend that got a call and received a "returned tag" seems that someone on the forum would at least know of or personally know a person that did get the call. I would think an attorney somewhere would be salivating at this and making the state prove they are following through.
I believe I have seen posts about a person receiving a permit that had been returned. So I think it does happen, but probably not every time.
Quote from: bobcat on June 16, 2022, 12:40:17 PMI believe I have seen posts about a person receiving a permit that had been returned. So I think it does happen, but probably not every time.I understand that if a dude breaks his ankle a few weeks before season, or a fire breaks out in the unit shortly before the season, it may not be reissued due to time constraints. The fact that the department told the member who returned a couple of tags that they wouldn't be reissued with months to do so is absurd. I hope the person he was talking to was just ignorant.
Quote from: bigtex on June 16, 2022, 11:38:05 AMQuote from: WSU on June 16, 2022, 11:26:57 AMWAC 220-412-080(1)(h) says, in part, as follows:"(h) If for any reason a successful applicant chooses not to participate in the hunt, they are eligible for point restoration. The successful applicant seeking point restoration must return the special hunting season permit to the department of fish and wildlife Olympia headquarters two weeks before the opening day of the special hunting season so it can be reissued."Sure sounds like the WAC contemplates the tags being reissued."Can" be reissued is different then "must" be reissued.Sent from my SM-G973U using Tapatalk The Devil really is in the details!
Quote from: Meow on June 16, 2022, 12:52:50 PMQuote from: bobcat on June 16, 2022, 12:40:17 PMI believe I have seen posts about a person receiving a permit that had been returned. So I think it does happen, but probably not every time.I understand that if a dude breaks his ankle a few weeks before season, or a fire breaks out in the unit shortly before the season, it may not be reissued due to time constraints. The fact that the department told the member who returned a couple of tags that they wouldn't be reissued with months to do so is absurd. I hope the person he was talking to was just ignorant.As mentioned earlier in this thread, I received a returned ewe tag 2 years ago.
Quote from: MtnMuley on June 16, 2022, 01:04:00 PMQuote from: Meow on June 16, 2022, 12:52:50 PMQuote from: bobcat on June 16, 2022, 12:40:17 PMI believe I have seen posts about a person receiving a permit that had been returned. So I think it does happen, but probably not every time.I understand that if a dude breaks his ankle a few weeks before season, or a fire breaks out in the unit shortly before the season, it may not be reissued due to time constraints. The fact that the department told the member who returned a couple of tags that they wouldn't be reissued with months to do so is absurd. I hope the person he was talking to was just ignorant.As mentioned earlier in this thread, I received a returned ewe tag 2 years ago.That's awesome! I'm glad you got that opportunity. That's how it should work.
Quote from: Meow on June 16, 2022, 01:22:50 PMQuote from: MtnMuley on June 16, 2022, 01:04:00 PMQuote from: Meow on June 16, 2022, 12:52:50 PMQuote from: bobcat on June 16, 2022, 12:40:17 PMI believe I have seen posts about a person receiving a permit that had been returned. So I think it does happen, but probably not every time.I understand that if a dude breaks his ankle a few weeks before season, or a fire breaks out in the unit shortly before the season, it may not be reissued due to time constraints. The fact that the department told the member who returned a couple of tags that they wouldn't be reissued with months to do so is absurd. I hope the person he was talking to was just ignorant.As mentioned earlier in this thread, I received a returned ewe tag 2 years ago.That's awesome! I'm glad you got that opportunity. That's how it should work.My FIL received a returned doe tag last season. WDFW called him and asked if he wanted it.It was a few months before season IIRC.