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RIFFLE SCOPE?
Karl Blanchard:
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--- Quote from: jrebel on May 30, 2023, 12:40:12 PM ---These post make me wonder....how many people have had a leupold scope fail? I'm not talking repeatability with the dial / turret, but a standard 2-7 or 3x9, etc.
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If you define fail as losing zero, then I have. Same with Vortex.
Watch YouTubes from Leupold sponsored hunters and there are plenty of times they missed, can't figure out why and are good shots. They line up, are steady and miss by 4 feet over the top of the animal. They always blame themselves as I did, but then you go back to the range and magically your zero is completely off.
Of course people miss due to human error, but I got tired of having my zero off all the time. I've missed 2, maybe 3 animals from it.
I've sent Leupolds and Vortex scopes back in to have the reticles reattached or whatever they do. If you ever have to re-zero and you haven't changed anything, the scope has failed, at least that's how I look at it. They weren't dropped, damaged or mistreated yet when I sent them back they found a problem that needed to be fixed.
I think people just get used to having to rezero every year and then again when they get to where they are hunting and think that's normal.
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This is funny as I notice the same thing with meateater folks. Competent shots on game, get all nestled into a good shooting position and whiff the shot :chuckle:
Karl Blanchard:
--- Quote from: bobcat on May 30, 2023, 02:34:32 PM ---
--- Quote from: Karl Blanchard on May 30, 2023, 02:25:32 PM ---
--- Quote from: bobcat on May 30, 2023, 02:21:03 PM ---I've used Leupold scopes for 40 years and never had one issue. They always hold zero and track perfect, but of course the only time I'm ever turning the dials is when I'm sighting in. Which is usually only once a year for each rifle. I always hear about how great their warranty is, but in 40 years I've not had a chance to use it.
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honest question here, why are you having to rezero annually? Changing ammo or something, or are they "just a bit off" come spring? If you're having to tweak your zero from time to time it's because your scope isn't holding zero. They shouldn't do that.
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They don't usually need any adjustment if I'm using the same load. But I like to reload, and I like to experiment with different bullets, so I don't often use the same load in each rifle year after year. One year might be Bergers, the next year a Barnes, and the next year Nosler.
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That makes more sense :tup:
fishngamereaper:
--- Quote from: Pathfinder101 on May 30, 2023, 01:36:17 PM ---
--- Quote from: jrebel on May 30, 2023, 12:40:12 PM ---These post make me wonder....how many people have had a leupold scope fail? I'm not talking repeatability with the dial / turret, but a standard 2-7 or 3x9, etc.
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Never. I run Sig on the guns I shoot most now, but I have several Leupolds and have never had one fail. Same goes for binos, spotting scope and rangefinder.
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Probably cause they where made by the same guy lol
Fun fact years ago Sig stole a bunch of Leupold optics guys to start their own optics line. That's why Sig opened a factory a few miles from Leupold.... promised none of them would have to move...
pickardjw:
If anyone is looking for some thorough testing on scopes related to maintaining zero and tracking, the Form Scope Evals on the slide are pretty informative. Not an extensive list but it's a work in progress. I'll consult this before buying my next scope for sure. Spoiler alert: neither the Leupolds or Vortex scopes perform well...Zero loss from riding around in the truck.
https://rokslide.com/forums/forums/rifle-scope-field-evaluations.133/
Fidelk:
--- Quote from: thinkingman on May 30, 2023, 10:48:05 AM ---
--- Quote from: Fidelk on May 29, 2023, 02:31:02 PM ---Check out Burris........Fullfield II 3-9x40 should be more than adequate for shots in the 100 yards range and out to 250. Price should be around $150-200. I've had one of those on a rifle for 20 years and it does what it's supposed to do.
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This is your best advice.
Burris is better glass and construction.
You know why people always comment on LeeOhpold and Vortex warranties?...Because they're necessary.
I own zero Vortex or Leupold for that reason.
My Burris Fullfield scopes lived a tough life on top of a Tikka 300WSM and 7-08 and never failed or needed zero adjustment.
Burris is clear, bright, reliable.
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tman, for under $200, the Fullfield II 3-9x40 came with a small spotting scope.......it's been on a cheap Winchester 70 in .300 WSM. I also have a Burris 2-10x42 Veracity on my Remington 700 LR that has amazing glass. I took a fall on my first hunt with the Fullfield coming down a steep slope.......which left green vegetation on the scope.......so it took an impact. I was sitting down after the fall seeing if the scope was loose, when I saw movement. Yikes, a buck, 200 yards away. Took the shot, buck went down and the Fullfield had held zero.
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