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1000 Yard 338 - I Like Big Guns Part 2
callturner:
I built a 338 lapua. I started out with a Stiller action, then I had Ron Smith build me a gain twist barrel for it. If I remember right it was 22 1/2 -11. I don't remember the bottom metal but I had it all stuck into a Manners stock. I did have a six to 24 scope mounted on top. It was a heavy rifle even though I turned the barrel down to a medium weight. I shot 250 grand Sierra game kings out of it because that's what I shoot out of my 338 win mags and I like how that bullet kills. I never took it past 600 yards. And I never did kill any game with it it was a fun rifle but I needed a roof on my house so I decided it had to go. I still shoot 338 win mags and have shot mule deer out to 527 yards but I don't make a habit of it I prefer hunting.
jackelope:
--- Quote from: luvmystang67 on March 21, 2024, 03:47:22 PM ---To answer a few questions...
1) My 300WM is a 1/12 twist, hardly ideal for larger bullets that are often desired for longer range shooting, 180 grain is about max and even then probably a bit heavier than ideal. Can it shoot 1000? Sure. Should I put a 180 grain bullet from my 300WM on an elk at 1000... starting to get iffy there.
2) Will I practice, or have I? I've practiced at 5-600 yards yes, but most of my guns aren't quite set up for this and also aren't necessarily as accurate as I'd like to begin with. I've taken elk at 500 with a .30-06 with an old 3-9x scope and it took a lot of poorly penetrating bullets to get it down. How on earth am I going to practice at longer range without a setup equipped to do it? And yes, I'm not going to go sight in a 338 lapua at 100 yards and then try to smack an elk at 1000... I'm not a jerk, I promise, and only a jerk would do that.
3) I don't mind getting whalloped by recoil, a sick part of me enjoys it. Maybe I'm making up for being recoil shy as a child and thinking dads .30-06 was the baddest gun in the land.
4) I also just want to, this is going to happen in some capacity, it is really just which one.
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I think what he’s saying is for you to take the 300 that you have and build a rifle out of it. Maybe not. What do you mean by 180 grains being about max? Do you mean for the 12 twist barrel?
BULLBLASTER:
--- Quote from: jackelope on March 21, 2024, 05:59:46 PM ---
--- Quote from: luvmystang67 on March 21, 2024, 03:47:22 PM ---To answer a few questions...
1) My 300WM is a 1/12 twist, hardly ideal for larger bullets that are often desired for longer range shooting, 180 grain is about max and even then probably a bit heavier than ideal. Can it shoot 1000? Sure. Should I put a 180 grain bullet from my 300WM on an elk at 1000... starting to get iffy there.
2) Will I practice, or have I? I've practiced at 5-600 yards yes, but most of my guns aren't quite set up for this and also aren't necessarily as accurate as I'd like to begin with. I've taken elk at 500 with a .30-06 with an old 3-9x scope and it took a lot of poorly penetrating bullets to get it down. How on earth am I going to practice at longer range without a setup equipped to do it? And yes, I'm not going to go sight in a 338 lapua at 100 yards and then try to smack an elk at 1000... I'm not a jerk, I promise, and only a jerk would do that.
3) I don't mind getting whalloped by recoil, a sick part of me enjoys it. Maybe I'm making up for being recoil shy as a child and thinking dads .30-06 was the baddest gun in the land.
4) I also just want to, this is going to happen in some capacity, it is really just which one.
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I think what he’s saying is for you to take the 300 that you have and build a rifle out of it. Maybe not. What do you mean by 180 grains being about max? Do you mean for the 12 twist barrel?
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:yeah:
Put some 180-190 bergers in that 300 and see what it can do. At the speed you can shoot them 1000 will not be an issue at least for targets. And likely terminal velocity for bullet upset depending on environmentals.
jrebel:
I was in the same boat a few years back. I ended up with a 338 lapua and this is why....?? (not saying there aren't multiple answers, just what made it easy for me.)
1. Brass is readily available. Quality brass is readily available.
2. Factory rifles are readily available....and there is a lot to choose from.
3. Price was not going to brake the bank, just incase I didn't like it or didn't shoot it much. Figured I could get my money back out of it if I wanted out a couple years later. If you go custom, you will never recoup your money if you decide you don't like it. I figured if I ended up liking it....I could go custom at a later date.
4. It is just fun saying you own a lapua... :chuckle:
I ended up with a Savage 110 FCP, which sits in a HS precision stock. It is a heavier rifle, but manageable and is easy to shoot with a brake. The savage action also allows me to do a barrel swap without the need of a gunsmith. Figured the action would make a good custom build at a later date should I want to.
I am pushing 260 Hammer Hunter at 2950 fps and it will consistently shoot sub 1" at 300 yards. It is a sub half MOA rifle all day long.
Now...other calibers I looked at but decided against.
338 rum....brass is almost impossible to find. Not that many quality choices for brass either. Price is the same or more expensive than 338 lapua brass.
338-378....Same reasons as the 338 rum.
All the above being said.....If you haven't shot past 600 yards, I'm not sure you can really appreciate how hard it is to read the wind at 600+ yards. Point being....you should be shooting a ton and in different weather conditions before you ever think of shooting at game at those distances. Also...you should never assume your ballistics calculator is accurate at those ranges....verify, verify, verify....and make corrections to your calculator as necessary. 600 yards is easy.....700 yards is very doable....beyond 700 becomes very difficult if there is any wind at all. The difference between a kill and a gut shot.
My next rifle will be a 338 rum or 338 lapua that I push 175 grain Hammer Hunters out of. I will be a speedster.
luvmystang67:
--- Quote from: jrebel on March 21, 2024, 06:37:25 PM ---I was in the same boat a few years back. I ended up with a 338 lapua and this is why....?? (not saying there aren't multiple answers, just what made it easy for me.)
1. Brass is readily available. Quality brass is readily available.
2. Factory rifles are readily available....and there is a lot to choose from.
3. Price was not going to brake the bank, just incase I didn't like it or didn't shoot it much. Figured I could get my money back out of it if I wanted out a couple years later. If you go custom, you will never recoup your money if you decide you don't like it. I figured if I ended up liking it....I could go custom at a later date.
4. It is just fun saying you own a lapua... :chuckle:
I ended up with a Savage 110 FCP, which sits in a HS precision stock. It is a heavier rifle, but manageable and is easy to shoot with a brake. The savage action also allows me to do a barrel swap without the need of a gunsmith. Figured the action would make a good custom build at a later date should I want to.
I am pushing 260 Hammer Hunter at 2950 fps and it will consistently shoot sub 1" at 300 yards. It is a sub half MOA rifle all day long.
Now...other calibers I looked at but decided against.
338 rum....brass is almost impossible to find. Not that many quality choices for brass either. Price is the same or more expensive than 338 lapua brass.
338-378....Same reasons as the 338 rum.
All the above being said.....If you haven't shot past 600 yards, I'm not sure you can really appreciate how hard it is to read the wind at 600+ yards. Point being....you should be shooting a ton and in different weather conditions before you ever think of shooting at game at those distances. Also...you should never assume your ballistics calculator is accurate at those ranges....verify, verify, verify....and make corrections to your calculator as necessary. 600 yards is easy.....700 yards is very doable....beyond 700 becomes very difficult if there is any wind at all. The difference between a kill and a gut shot.
My next rifle will be a 338 rum or 338 lapua that I push 175 grain Hammer Hunters out of. I will be a speedster.
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Appreciate the insight!
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