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bigtex:
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--- Quote from: Mtnwalker on April 12, 2024, 09:16:16 AM ---
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--- Quote from: wafisherman on April 12, 2024, 08:36:27 AM ---
--- Quote from: Mtnwalker on April 12, 2024, 08:30:39 AM ---Don't need to implement a license, just ban the sale of antlers. The guys going for a walk and collecting a few for their pile aren't the problem
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Middle ground here - have a license requirement for the sales but the guy collecting a few for his own use is good to go.
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:yeah:
They are technically running a business and I personally think it should be treated as such. The amount of lawlessness (trespassing, wildlife harassment, assault and intimidation) that goes on with some areas that I used to shed hunt has gotten exponentially worse since it essentially became big business.
These guys that are out there intentionally "jumping" the deer herds and stressing out the animals just to get them to drop their sheds. I about got into a very serious situation once when a guy kept pushing this 170's 4 point. The buck had its tongue hanging out and laboring and the damn guy wouldn't leave it alone.
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Just wondering how a $100 license is going to lessen the pressure on the animals or insanity of the commercial guys...
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I don't know maybe it would expose them to the Dept of Revenue? They are technically a business operating without a business license? Make it $1,000 commercial license if they are selling them. Everything else is more expensive as a business. I can pull an L&I electrical permit as a homeowner for $X amount. If a licensed electrical contractor pulls the same permit for the same work it is 3-4 times $X (it has been a while since I have pulled one so no idea the cost these days)
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So you're saying a guy who goes and collects sheds and sells them to a buyer needs a business license? What about the migrants picking forest products, do they need a business license to sell to a buyer? My son used to go wrangle up baseballs near baseball fields and sell them to Play it Again Sports, should he need a business license?
Tbar:
--- Quote from: bigtex on April 16, 2024, 06:46:45 PM ---
--- Quote from: bearhunter99 on April 12, 2024, 01:22:41 PM ---
--- Quote from: Mtnwalker on April 12, 2024, 09:16:16 AM ---
--- Quote from: bearhunter99 on April 12, 2024, 09:06:58 AM ---
--- Quote from: wafisherman on April 12, 2024, 08:36:27 AM ---
--- Quote from: Mtnwalker on April 12, 2024, 08:30:39 AM ---Don't need to implement a license, just ban the sale of antlers. The guys going for a walk and collecting a few for their pile aren't the problem
--- End quote ---
Middle ground here - have a license requirement for the sales but the guy collecting a few for his own use is good to go.
--- End quote ---
:yeah:
They are technically running a business and I personally think it should be treated as such. The amount of lawlessness (trespassing, wildlife harassment, assault and intimidation) that goes on with some areas that I used to shed hunt has gotten exponentially worse since it essentially became big business.
These guys that are out there intentionally "jumping" the deer herds and stressing out the animals just to get them to drop their sheds. I about got into a very serious situation once when a guy kept pushing this 170's 4 point. The buck had its tongue hanging out and laboring and the damn guy wouldn't leave it alone.
--- End quote ---
Just wondering how a $100 license is going to lessen the pressure on the animals or insanity of the commercial guys...
--- End quote ---
I don't know maybe it would expose them to the Dept of Revenue? They are technically a business operating without a business license? Make it $1,000 commercial license if they are selling them. Everything else is more expensive as a business. I can pull an L&I electrical permit as a homeowner for $X amount. If a licensed electrical contractor pulls the same permit for the same work it is 3-4 times $X (it has been a while since I have pulled one so no idea the cost these days)
--- End quote ---
So you're saying a guy who goes and collects sheds and sells them to a buyer needs a business license? What about the migrants picking forest products, do they need a business license to sell to a buyer? My son used to go wrangle up baseballs near baseball fields and sell them to Play it Again Sports, should he need a business license?
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Hell yes they should have a business license! The state and federal law enforcement should be empowered, this is theft of public resources. Resources held in trust, exploitation should be addressed. As for sheds, it's getting ridiculous. so maybe it's time for the state to step in. If your kids wrangling balls hurts resources then it may need regulation.
Scruffy:
They need to ban the sale of antlers. It would reduce the harassment of animals and give everyone a chance to go find a shed. But when you have people out there collecting dozens at a time and that's all they do then most don't stand a chance. The wildlife is property of the state so no individual should profit from something not theirs. Going with a permit or license for sheds is ridiculous, every hunter picks up the forky they find as a souvenir from their hunting area. Can you imagine getting a ticket for it if you didn't have a permit.
Karl Blanchard:
https://www.fieldandstream.com/conservation/antler-poacher-gets-fine-and-worldwide-hunting-ban/
ducks4days:
--- Quote from: bigtex on April 16, 2024, 06:46:45 PM ---
--- Quote from: bearhunter99 on April 12, 2024, 01:22:41 PM ---
--- Quote from: Mtnwalker on April 12, 2024, 09:16:16 AM ---
--- Quote from: bearhunter99 on April 12, 2024, 09:06:58 AM ---
--- Quote from: wafisherman on April 12, 2024, 08:36:27 AM ---
--- Quote from: Mtnwalker on April 12, 2024, 08:30:39 AM ---Don't need to implement a license, just ban the sale of antlers. The guys going for a walk and collecting a few for their pile aren't the problem
--- End quote ---
Middle ground here - have a license requirement for the sales but the guy collecting a few for his own use is good to go.
--- End quote ---
:yeah:
They are technically running a business and I personally think it should be treated as such. The amount of lawlessness (trespassing, wildlife harassment, assault and intimidation) that goes on with some areas that I used to shed hunt has gotten exponentially worse since it essentially became big business.
These guys that are out there intentionally "jumping" the deer herds and stressing out the animals just to get them to drop their sheds. I about got into a very serious situation once when a guy kept pushing this 170's 4 point. The buck had its tongue hanging out and laboring and the damn guy wouldn't leave it alone.
--- End quote ---
Just wondering how a $100 license is going to lessen the pressure on the animals or insanity of the commercial guys...
--- End quote ---
I don't know maybe it would expose them to the Dept of Revenue? They are technically a business operating without a business license? Make it $1,000 commercial license if they are selling them. Everything else is more expensive as a business. I can pull an L&I electrical permit as a homeowner for $X amount. If a licensed electrical contractor pulls the same permit for the same work it is 3-4 times $X (it has been a while since I have pulled one so no idea the cost these days)
--- End quote ---
So you're saying a guy who goes and collects sheds and sells them to a buyer needs a business license? What about the migrants picking forest products, do they need a business license to sell to a buyer? My son used to go wrangle up baseballs near baseball fields and sell them to Play it Again Sports, should he need a business license?
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Yes, and we already do. Commercial foraging requires a license that you can buy on the website.
We should just align this to the existing licensing scheme for foraging other things, and set rules and regs around it, open up and close seasons, etc.. At a minimum, it gives green jeans another lever to pull for people who go overboard. Its not just a charge for harassing wildlife, but can also suspend commercial licensing for sheds for a season or number of years.
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