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Feathernfurr:
I’d rather have an abundance of elk on the landscape. I’ve seen far too much elk and deer habitat destroyed by cattle due to over grazing and improper rotation of grazing allotments. Not to mention the ones that ignore allotments all together and cut barbwire. If it was up to me elk would be restored to all of their historical range along with bison. Cattleman can keep their cattle to their thousands of acres of private property. I’m interested in hunting, not eating beef and lining someone else pockets.
time2hunt:
Why did you delete my post this is a person with no post count and stirring the pot.
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PsoasHunter:
That's a pretty awful picture for anyone who raises livestock, my grandparents raised dairy cattle and this would be a nightmare for them.
Genuinely curious, what are the benefits of grazing to the public? I've never thought about it. I saw the comment about fire suppression, but don't understand that given what cows eat.
Feathernfurr:
Grazing removes fuel, less fuel, less intense fires. When done responsibly and with a scientific approach. Nature does this on its own when it has good populations of grazing ungulates. There are plenty of places that don’t allow cattle grazing, supports thousands of ungulates, and have healthy fire cycles. But, overgrazing and soil compaction from cattle run rampant in most of the blm and forest service land that I’ve walked thousands of miles in. I’m not stirring the pot, but I also won’t stand aside and be called jealous or blue because I’d rather prioritize healthy public lands with better hunting opportunities.
Many states would have much larger elk and deer populations, especially states with reintroduced elk populations, if it wasn’t for push back from the cattleman associations fighting wildlife agencies over the threat of wildlife to their herds and grazing rights.
I’m sure there are good cattle farmers out there. My experience on public ground has been nearly 100% negative. I’m tired of the “woah is me, my poor cattle family” from ranchers who own hundreds and thousands of acres, and destroy the public land that self reliant folks depend on.
Platensek-po:
--- Quote from: Feathernfurr on July 29, 2024, 05:32:09 PM ---I’d rather have an abundance of elk on the landscape. I’ve seen far too much elk and deer habitat destroyed by cattle due to over grazing and improper rotation of grazing allotments. Not to mention the ones that ignore allotments all together and cut barbwire. If it was up to me elk would be restored to all of their historical range along with bison. Cattleman can keep their cattle to their thousands of acres of private property. I’m interested in hunting, not eating beef and lining someone else pockets.
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This. The whole reason we don’t have bison is because of cattle. All these leftists care about is predators but no one ever talks about bringing back bison. I’ve seen lots of good campsites ruined by cattle that were not supposed to be there. Not too mention the problems of cheatgrass taking over a bunch of areas.
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