Big Game Hunting > Bear Hunting
What does "Bang Flop" mean to you???
highside74:
When I say bang flop it means the animal was stone dead. No running just buckled. Generally I see this with a high shoulder/neck shot.
jrebel:
So it sounds like we are all on the same page....
How often are you seeing bang flops with bear? I personally think bear are some of the toughest animals on the planet (slightly exaggerated).....lethal / heart shots....like dead on the paw....and they still cover 10-50 yards. My family has killed bear with mono / cup and core / small(er) caliber / large caliber and the results are mostly the same. A well hit bear dies fast, but still covers ground.
I have experienced great blood trails with mono's that have both entrance and exit wounds. I have had not so great blood trails with only entrance from softer cup and core.
My only two bang flops were: 1
1. .270 win with 150 partition on a high shoulder shot. Bear dropped in it's track, though did not die very fast. Ended up walking up to it and having to put it down with a second shot. This was a big sow....bearpaw can attest to the shot. If I remember correctly it was 100-150 yard shot.
2. .338 lapua with 260 grain Hammer Hunter at 330 yards. Hard quartering to shot. Bullet entered in the base of the neck and exited second / third to the last rib on the opposite side. Spine / lungs / Aortic arch all in volved. This was hands down the biggest bear we have ever shot, estimated 500+ lbs. The shot literally stoned the bear.....and it never wiggled, flinched, kicked, after hit. We found the bear like it was sleeping with its head on it's front paws from falling straight down.
Both of these bears involved spinal shots to some degree. We have shot much smaller bears with small and large caliber rifles....heart / double lung / etc....and non of them have bang flopped.
Couple pics to the big bear shot with the laupa to keep the thread interesting. At the time I was 270 ish lbs and am 6 foot tall.
addicted1:
I’ve only banged flopped two animals, bear in the neck and a deer double longed and heart with my ML (Lehigh fragmenting bullet). Animals seem to have the ability to cover a lot of ground in those few seconds after shot and bleed out occurs, even with blown out shoulders. Just so happens that my first two big games animals were bang flop, and boy was I surprised to find out that’s not case. Steady streak of 20-50 yard recoveries since then. Which may not sound like much but, in the thick and nasty of western Washington it can take some time if there isn’t much of a blood trail.
Bearhunter308:
That’s a BIG bear!
Westside88:
I think of bang flop as they never took another step or jumped straight up and came down in the same spot. We haven't killed a lot of bears, but I hit one with 300 grain bloodline bullet in my muzzle loader and it went into an immediate face plant. For deer it's been a head or neck shot that dropped them right in their track. I hit a spike elk once high in the spine that air gapped the spine to the point that it was no longer intact. That one went down like dropping a wet towel
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