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No More Federal Land?
baldopepper:
I don't suspect Utah would give up ownership if they got the land, they'd just lease or reward the use of it to private interests. Keep in mind this is the state that has given 200 quality hunting permits to a private interest to control. (Some what different subject, but research into it shows a lot of shady involvement typical of Utah)
Fidelk:
--- Quote from: pianoman9701 on December 19, 2024, 02:21:40 PM ---A solid argument could be made that the USDA and FS's banning of logging on federal lands since the 1980s is responsible for the intense damage caused by wildfires today.............. With a return to responsible forestry, it's quite possible that the states could successfully manage those lands more efficiently and wouldn't have the disastrous wildfires to deal with.
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After the disastrous and deadly 1910 fire season.......an emphasis was put on fighting forest fires. The USFS pretty much went to a policy of quickly and aggressively battling every fire start. This included the use of aviation. They were very good at stopping fires when they were fairly small. A lot of forest fuels built up as a result of this policy. Fire was largely taken out of it's role in managing forest health. This reduction in fire activity was probably more responsible for wildfire damage today as opposed to banning logging. I think the forests should be heavily logged and the wood used, since it's all going to burn up anyway.
CarbonHunter:
--- Quote from: BIGINNER on December 20, 2024, 07:22:45 AM ---
--- Quote from: slavenoid on December 20, 2024, 05:20:59 AM ---Don't assume the states will own or manage any of the land. The lawyer on the meat eater podcast pointed out the legal procedure is that the land would go to the highest bidder.
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That only applies if the last in transering to private ownership. It has to go on public auction, it cannot just be a private market sale. However if the land is being trasnfered from one government entity to another it is exempt from this rule, and can be transered without going to public auction.
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Federal land must first be offered to the state then the tribes before it can go up for public auction. There is a standing process for transferring of federal land and that is why the cattlemen who think it should be sold to them need to realize they are way down the pecking pole before they could even bid on it.
baldopepper:
--- Quote from: Fidelk on December 20, 2024, 09:23:33 AM ---
--- Quote from: pianoman9701 on December 19, 2024, 02:21:40 PM ---A solid argument could be made that the USDA and FS's banning of logging on federal lands since the 1980s is responsible for the intense damage caused by wildfires today.............. With a return to responsible forestry, it's quite possible that the states could successfully manage those lands more efficiently and wouldn't have the disastrous wildfires to deal with.
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After the disastrous and deadly 1910 fire season.......an emphasis was put on fighting forest fires. The USFS pretty much went to a policy of quickly and aggressively battling every fire start. This included the use of aviation. They were very good at stopping fires when they were fairly small. A lot of forest fuels built up as a result of this policy. Fire was largely taken out of it's role in managing forest health. This reduction in fire activity was probably more responsible for wildfire damage today as opposed to banning logging. I think the forests should be heavily logged and the wood used, since it's all going to burn up anyway.
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So, what do they do with all.that lumber once it's cut? No company is going to go in and log it when they can't profitably sale it. Nation wide there are thousands of both public and private timberlands available for logging, but there's no profitable demand for it. Many of our forests need thinning and better control, but there's no easy answer for it.
LDennis24:
Somebody needs to tell them about the Unlawful Inclosures Act... problem solved
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