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| MADMAX:
It’s only been 3 weeks in I lived through the Clinton years government RIFs Got that Tshirt , seen it in real time. After 38 years seen lots of no loads that needed a reality check Probationary and temp employees go first because of the rules Then a reset Temps, contract employees, realignment follows If a let go employee is a performer they usually find there way back https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2025/2/7/fact-check-did-clinton-set-the-precedent-for-mass-federal-worker-buyouts Look on USAjobs -still jobs available Time will tell |
| Platensek-po:
--- Quote from: HUNTIN4SIX on February 14, 2025, 01:08:41 PM ---Well with the amount of government saving we will have after the fraud has been exposed, I think paying for early outs is the last thing to worry about. Lotsa kicking and screaming and false sensational hype from the safe and secure government workers. I too bought into the lie of security. Nobody to blame but the government politicians on this one. Lives will be affected...it’s sad. Seems many are so wounded up about layoffs...not totally compassionate because I went through it with the jab. Where was the same outcry with the jab layoffs. Just curious? --- End quote --- Lolololololololol. |
| dwils233:
--- Quote from: Buckhunter24 on February 14, 2025, 07:10:15 PM --- --- Quote from: addicted1 on February 14, 2025, 06:57:18 PM --- --- Quote from: MADMAX on February 14, 2025, 05:45:41 PM --- --- Quote from: CarbonHunter on February 14, 2025, 05:29:00 PM ---I saw earlier today that the US Forest Service seams to be the hardest hit with today’s terminations. Honestly we were finally starting to see some actual management of our forests since Clinton stopped logging and I think these across the board actions will set forest management back even further. --- End quote --- Give it some time I believe Trump will be directing his team to start doing some realignments, restructuring and new hiring --- End quote --- Fat chance, most areas have lost a significant portion of their workforce that had the boots on the ground. To think this will get turned around anytime soon beyond laughable. The terminations will continue through next week, for an agency that was already lean. Oh well what’s a few more people to add to Washington homeless population. --- End quote --- Ramp up the cut then we can look at bringing back some employees. --- End quote --- That's not realistic. That's like having a doctor tell the surgeon to just start pulling out organs and well see how it goes during the post-surgery recovery. Targeted cuts might have been productive AFTER auditing and understanding the impact. Broad base decimation doesn't actually protect the financial and resource interests of our country. That's why you don't just have some random person come in and fire your IT staff to save money... System dependency and vitality. Musk did the same process at Twitter. Market cap went from 44b to 9b. It doesn't make operational sense or business sense |
| baldopepper:
I was employed several years ago by a fairly large, international company with offices literally around the world.. With profits down two years in a row, a decision was made to cut costs by closing some offices and letting people go. They offered what they called an early retirement offer to nearly every employee. 6 months pay and 6 months health insurance coverage. Problem was that every good employee who knew they could easily find employment (mostly with competitors) were the ones who took the offer. (Myself included) That was not enough so.they laid off another large group starting with the newest employees and worked their way up to reach their goal This left them with a management group who should have been selectively let go for poor preformance. Additionally the younger ones who made the cut were concerned about future cut backs and most of the better ones started immediately looking elsewhere..Company never really recovered, sold off some divisions and is now a shadow of its old self. Their record has made it difficult to recruit top people. Hope we're not seeing that same type thing in our government. |
| EnglishSetter:
--- Quote from: dwils233 on February 14, 2025, 09:36:32 PM --- --- Quote from: Buckhunter24 on February 14, 2025, 07:10:15 PM --- --- Quote from: addicted1 on February 14, 2025, 06:57:18 PM --- --- Quote from: MADMAX on February 14, 2025, 05:45:41 PM --- --- Quote from: CarbonHunter on February 14, 2025, 05:29:00 PM ---I saw earlier today that the US Forest Service seams to be the hardest hit with today’s terminations. Honestly we were finally starting to see some actual management of our forests since Clinton stopped logging and I think these across the board actions will set forest management back even further. --- End quote --- Give it some time I believe Trump will be directing his team to start doing some realignments, restructuring and new hiring --- End quote --- Fat chance, most areas have lost a significant portion of their workforce that had the boots on the ground. To think this will get turned around anytime soon beyond laughable. The terminations will continue through next week, for an agency that was already lean. Oh well what’s a few more people to add to Washington homeless population. --- End quote --- Ramp up the cut then we can look at bringing back some employees. --- End quote --- That's not realistic. That's like having a doctor tell the surgeon to just start pulling out organs and well see how it goes during the post-surgery recovery. Targeted cuts might have been productive AFTER auditing and understanding the impact. Broad base decimation doesn't actually protect the financial and resource interests of our country. That's why you don't just have some random person come in and fire your IT staff to save money... System dependency and vitality. Musk did the same process at Twitter. Market cap went from 44b to 9b. It doesn't make operational sense or business sense --- End quote --- False equivalency. The only reason Twitter capped at $41BB (not 44) was because Musk was buying it (unless you have another explanation for gaining 28% in it's last month). No longer, being publicly traded, the current value is difficult to determine accurately, but if the same metrics (like P:E) were used to value "Wall Street", many would be cut if half. Lots of speculation. Twitter didn't make a profit most years, it's price:sales was "risky", had high debt load and high loan payments. Perhaps Musk paid way too much from a business perspective, but he wanted it and that's what it took. The market priced in his acquisition. Add in more competing platforms now, but Musk has ambitions to make "X" more than a platform. Twitter made it's $ via advertising (the ol' "if it's free, you're the product" game). A lot of advertisers backed out due to the dropped accounts hullaballo It really didn't have to do with Musk trimming staff. X seems to be functioning just fine. If it's not, what staff positions are needed? You should be able to attempt an answer ion that if you feel his staff cuts are responsible for it's devaluation. IMHO it's fallacy to correlate public/private companies with .gov. .Gov/Bureaucrats exists to grow their empires. The bigger the budget/payroll, the more power your .gov org wields. I had a friend (D) who was a Legislative Analyst for a state legislator. She had a coworker with same title. There wasn't enough work for one, but the legislator didn't want to reduce his budget. So......they each worked 2 days per week for 5 day $$$. That was $120k each 12 years ago. This idea that .gov jobs last forever is counter to any non-public sector. |
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