Big Game Hunting > Out Of State Hunting
Utah bend over
Stein:
--- Quote from: baldopepper on March 19, 2025, 07:50:57 AM ---
--- Quote from: Mtnwalker on March 19, 2025, 07:16:59 AM ---The conspiracy theorist in me wonders if these extreme increases are being pushed by certain individuals who would like to see hunting go away, kind of like how they're attempting to price and tax people out of gun ownership in WA... Make it unaffordable, participation drops way off, less resistance as it fades into the ether. Hope I'm wrong
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Actually, in Utah you have some very influential people who beleive that big game are a state asset that the state has been selling way to cheaply for years. They have pushed for more raffle and auction type tags and used them as an example of how much money can be made by literally selling big game. I think they'll continue to push for these increases until the law of diminishing returns kicks in. Sure, they'll loose a few applicants but until they finally reach the point where they don't sell out the available tags they'll just keep pushing.
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I bet there are also resident hunters that want to see fewer nonresidents in the field. This may or may not directly impact hunter numbers, but their will be fewer applicants and at some point the lesser tags won't get purchased at some price when other states offer a better option. I bet most residents support sticking it to the out of staters unless they are benefitting from the increase in tourism.
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The only way hunters in the field will decrease is if they lower tag numbers. They will sell every tag available. With the limited number of LQ tags, I can't see a scenario where any cost increase would cause there to be any unwanted tags. When you have 10 tags with 10,000 applicants, you'll never price out that many people. The only loss in revenue is going to be a relatively small amount because a few people stop applying.
baldopepper:
It's a little more complicated in Utah. Many there really don't care much either way about out of state hunters , especially compared to other western states. What they fear is the influence private groups ( or group) have gotten over the game department. Profitability is slowly overruling opportunity when it comes to decision making. They are very much aware of how much some will pay for "elite" opportunity and their goal is to create as much of that type opportunity as they can..They disguise their goal under the guise of "conservation" just don't add the part of conservation, just not for everyone. I hope other western states don't follow their game plan.
Stein:
Aren't there leftover tags in UT that don't get purchased? Some from last year were unlimited on their website. I don't hunt UT, so I'm not fluent in their system.
baldopepper:
--- Quote from: Stein on March 19, 2025, 01:21:05 PM ---Aren't there leftover tags in UT that don't get purchased? Some from last year were unlimited on their website. I don't hunt UT, so I'm not fluent in their system.
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I don't keep close track anymore, but family there tells me they do throw a few bones out by way of tags, but they also tell me those are pretty bare bones. I think they usually have a few spike only elk tags in selected units that go unsold and they're still fairly liberal on their archery hunts.
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