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Seeking recommendations on a new scope
Stein:
I had 2/2 Leupold not hold zero, I had multiple Vortex not hold a zero. Both of their warranties are solid, they replaced or repaired all of the scopes no questions and did it quickly. In the case of Vortex, one was fine after that and another two went to lose zero again. In all cases except one Vortex Diamondback ironically (cheapest by far), I couldn't go a year without having to rezero. More than one lost zero between range trips. With my SWFA, I haven't touched zero for three years of pretty heavy use.
I have also watched sponsored celebrity hunters miss moderate distance, well supported shots by four or five feet and wonder what happened.
The problem is you can't test zero at the store and what sells is the quality of the glass and warranty.
I don't think I'm particularly hard on equipment, but that's my admittedly anecdotal evidence.
Sneaky Squirrel:
I'm surprised to see all the issues with Leupold. I have a # of them and never had an issue with zero. But i probably don't shoot near as much as some of the folks on here.
I've only had one issue with a scope that wasn't user error and it was with a Nightforce NXS about 5 years ago. It was a lemon right out of the box. Sent it in and they were planning on replacing it but i opted for my money back. However, i did just pick up a new 300PRC and i think i'm going to give Nightforce another try.
pickardjw:
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--- Quote from: JWBINX on May 20, 2025, 07:16:51 AM ---Don't be concerned about holding zero
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Seems like that should be the primary concern...
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IME, most deviations from "holding zero" has little to do with the scope (assuming mid-tier and above). Mounts not so much. A scope can only be as good as it's mounts.
Now if you like to dial in elevation (or windage) with accuracy/repeatability, I see that as a different set of parameters. Personally, I don't shoot long enough yardages with flat shooting cartridges to need to play that game.
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Agreed that there are several other variables that can contribute to zero loss. However, when those other variables are controlled for and a variety of brands/models are tested the same way there's pretty clear trend. Some brands/models have a higher prevalence of zero retention and others don't.
coachg:
Europtic has the Leupold V6HD on sale right now for 1599
Its a 3x18 x52. it has the fire dot
I just bought the 4x25x52 and love it. it's just at 24ozs. really love the glass.
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