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BA Mongor:
Alan,
I agree with statement that hound hunting hasn't been a factor for over 15-years now, but some of your other misguided statements are comical at best. I started hunting in the sixties and had a neighbor who was a hardcore hound hunter for bears. Back then there was a bounty and killed a lot of bears.
Either you're unaware, or just don't know, but most of the timber companies and or investment groups that own large sections of timberland pay to have nuisance animals removed. This isn't a knock on the "industry", it's just their way of managing their lands and mitigating damage. To say otherwise, and comical to say the least.
If you truly believe that our commission has our best interest at heart, I have some ocean front property in Arizona for you! The commission hates hunting and continue to do their part in removing as many opportunities that they can. Or at least mismanaging them to the point where they're meaningless.
Bottom line is, there is no reason for a single bear limit in 506. None.
TitusFord:
Last season I bumped in to 14+ bear and killed one. Most of them were in 530/506. Every time I went elk hunting I was on fresh bear tracks or scat.
And as far as the trapping, timber companies do utilize the government bear trappers and they have to follow a lot of rules and can only trap in areas with fresh bear damaged trees and can only trap 2 bear per square mile or something along those lines. They also only trap in may/June not April through august.
The trappers and the timber companies agree its silly to restrict hunting and have trappers catch the bears instead but that's not who makes the rules.
The bear in the picture I watched at 230 yards for over 30 minutes while I couldn't get ahold of anyone with a bear tag.
Alan K:
Mongor,
Please elaborate on which parts are misguided?
I am a forester by trade and have worked on just about all of the different land owners' property over the years in this state, both public and private.
Re-read my post, maybe a little slower this time. My one comment on the commission was that this change must have been politically motivated, it's certainly not based on a lack of bears - which I explained the entire paragraph leading up to that sentence. Quite the opposite of the way you comprehended it?
And hounds as a depredation remedy was done away with after lawsuit in 2018, and recreationally nearly 30 years ago. Not sure where your 15 is coming from.
And most companies I know are either supplemental feeding, attempting the boot hunts, or trying to find government trappers which again are nowhere near as efficient in their work as hounds and I can't see them coming even close to historical hound removal. From what I understand there isn't even the capacity to have a meaningful impact.
You falsely claim that timber company depredation removals make up the largest percentage of take... That is not even remotely close to reality. I would not doubt that there could be 30 bears in a general area in total, but removed? I can't imagine WDFW's conflict specialists would allow for anywhere near that density to be removed. Even in the hound days that wouldn't have been possible unless you're talking about an entire region or cluster of GMU's.
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hunter399:
--- Quote from: TitusFord on Yesterday at 10:13:49 PM ---Last season I bumped in to 14+ bear and killed one. Most of them were in 530/506. Every time I went elk hunting I was on fresh bear tracks or scat.
And as far as the trapping, timber companies do utilize the government bear trappers and they have to follow a lot of rules and can only trap in areas with fresh bear damaged trees and can only trap 2 bear per square mile or something along those lines. They also only trap in may/June not April through august.
The trappers and the timber companies agree its silly to restrict hunting and have trappers catch the bears instead but that's not who makes the rules.
The bear in the picture I watched at 230 yards for over 30 minutes while I couldn't get ahold of anyone with a bear tag.
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Very cool pic.
I wouldn't worry about her this year.
No tag needed this year,sows with cubs are off limits this year.
Still very cool pic ,I'm sure just observation was very awesome.
Thanks for sharing.👍
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