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Hunting with a suppressor - dumb idea?
zwickeyman:
IMHO
It is crazy to not zero with suppressor on. Some cans in some rifles have significant POI shift. Some group better with can , some group worse but most have some POI
I highly suggest zeroing with the can on
Mtnwalker:
--- Quote from: zwickeyman on October 09, 2025, 10:51:09 AM ---IMHO
It is crazy to not zero with suppressor on. Some cans in some rifles have significant POI shift. Some group better with can , some group worse but most have some POI
I highly suggest zeroing with the can on
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:yeah: You should always zero your rifle with whatever brake/can/accessories are going to be on it when you're hunting, full stop. Sounds like the person at that store either misunderstood the question or is talking out their rear end. Also a loose suppressor can ABSOLUTELY have a negative impact on POI/group size. This is not even up for debate. My rifle groups a bit better with the can than without with my current load but POI shifts about 1moa
birdshooter1189:
--- Quote from: Mtnwalker on October 09, 2025, 11:48:59 AM ---
--- Quote from: zwickeyman on October 09, 2025, 10:51:09 AM ---IMHO
It is crazy to not zero with suppressor on. Some cans in some rifles have significant POI shift. Some group better with can , some group worse but most have some POI
I highly suggest zeroing with the can on
--- End quote ---
:yeah: You should always zero your rifle with whatever brake/can/accessories are going to be on it when you're hunting, full stop. Sounds like the person at that store either misunderstood the question or is talking out their rear end. Also a loose suppressor can ABSOLUTELY have a negative impact on POI/group size. This is not even up for debate. My rifle groups a bit better with the can than without with my current load but POI shifts about 1moa
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I concur with the above. Store was wrong on both counts.
1. You SHOULD zero the rifle with the suppressor on and tight. Zero it in the exact condition that it will be in when you take a shot in the field.
2. A loose suppressor will absolutely cause trajectory inconsistencies. Make sure it's snug. ALWAYS.
dreadi:
What are you using to mount the silencer?
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Antlershed:
--- Quote from: Wolfdog2314 on October 09, 2025, 07:10:10 AM ---I’ve got the Sig cross Trax in 308 also and was running in to the same issues of inconsistent groups. I’d have a couple group up and then be way off. Long story short there was too much run out in my barrel from the factory. (Alignment of barrel to my suppressor is the easiest terms I can explain it in). I sent the rifle to Thunderbeast and they fixed it. They said the runout was .006”. I now have .9” consistent groups with a 168 Berger. This is setup as my blacktail brush gun.
Of course I didn’t find this out initially until I got a bullet strike at the end of my supressor. I had seen the slightest of marks on the exit hole before, but I attributed that to the suppressor being lose after a shooting session my first time out with it.
That inconsistent of groups you’re having, I’d want that checked. Any good gunsmith should be able to, but Thunderbeast was amazing to deal with. They said they “fix” twice as many barrels as they thread themselves.
I won’t hunt without a suppressor anymore. The hearing protection and animal reaction (at times) is well worth it.
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Was that .006 after they fixed it?
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