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Quote from: Wolfdog2314 on October 09, 2025, 07:10:10 AMI’ve got the Sig cross Trax in 308 also and was running in to the same issues of inconsistent groups. I’d have a couple group up and then be way off. Long story short there was too much run out in my barrel from the factory. (Alignment of barrel to my suppressor is the easiest terms I can explain it in). I sent the rifle to Thunderbeast and they fixed it. They said the runout was .006”. I now have .9” consistent groups with a 168 Berger. This is setup as my blacktail brush gun. Of course I didn’t find this out initially until I got a bullet strike at the end of my supressor. I had seen the slightest of marks on the exit hole before, but I attributed that to the suppressor being lose after a shooting session my first time out with it. That inconsistent of groups you’re having, I’d want that checked. Any good gunsmith should be able to, but Thunderbeast was amazing to deal with. They said they “fix” twice as many barrels as they thread themselves. I won’t hunt without a suppressor anymore. The hearing protection and animal reaction (at times) is well worth it.Was that .006 after they fixed it?
I’ve got the Sig cross Trax in 308 also and was running in to the same issues of inconsistent groups. I’d have a couple group up and then be way off. Long story short there was too much run out in my barrel from the factory. (Alignment of barrel to my suppressor is the easiest terms I can explain it in). I sent the rifle to Thunderbeast and they fixed it. They said the runout was .006”. I now have .9” consistent groups with a 168 Berger. This is setup as my blacktail brush gun. Of course I didn’t find this out initially until I got a bullet strike at the end of my supressor. I had seen the slightest of marks on the exit hole before, but I attributed that to the suppressor being lose after a shooting session my first time out with it. That inconsistent of groups you’re having, I’d want that checked. Any good gunsmith should be able to, but Thunderbeast was amazing to deal with. They said they “fix” twice as many barrels as they thread themselves. I won’t hunt without a suppressor anymore. The hearing protection and animal reaction (at times) is well worth it.
Hmmm…ok. I was curious because I had to send a rifle into Thunderbeast as well (Ruger American), and they said they were able to get it down to .004” runout and made it sound like that was acceptable. I am headed to the range now to see how it shoots.
To me they are just a fad. Maybe useful varmint hunting if you have more than one target animal.
Similar to others, I don't hunt unsuppressed anymore except for muzzy and shotgun. An neither do most of my hunting buddies. Love this pic from Idaho spring bear this year with a couple new guys in the group. Knew I'd like them when I saw their rifles!1. Crank that can on when everything is cold. As it heats up at the range it may loosen a bit. Make sure it's tight after the first mag and periodically after. Some guys have an oven mitt in their range bag for this express purpose 2. Cover for the range is a must. LS Wild makes a minimalist, low profile cover that keeps mirage down for about 10 shots. Tons of other options that'll get you out to ~20 shots or so before mirage is unavoidable. All depending on timing of course. 3. So many other things that can be contributing to poor grouping, but should be pretty easy to verify shooting some 10 round groups with and without the can.Pros: Ear pro not necessary (to a certain extent), easier to communicate with a partner in the field quietly (shooter/spotter), very different game reaction to shots, reduced recoil, reduced muzzle blast. I also like that it reduces my profile to other hunters in the area. Cons: Added weight, added length, added potential failure point, cost.
Quote from: pickardjw on October 09, 2025, 07:40:00 AMSimilar to others, I don't hunt unsuppressed anymore except for muzzy and shotgun. An neither do most of my hunting buddies. Love this pic from Idaho spring bear this year with a couple new guys in the group. Knew I'd like them when I saw their rifles!1. Crank that can on when everything is cold. As it heats up at the range it may loosen a bit. Make sure it's tight after the first mag and periodically after. Some guys have an oven mitt in their range bag for this express purpose 2. Cover for the range is a must. LS Wild makes a minimalist, low profile cover that keeps mirage down for about 10 shots. Tons of other options that'll get you out to ~20 shots or so before mirage is unavoidable. All depending on timing of course. 3. So many other things that can be contributing to poor grouping, but should be pretty easy to verify shooting some 10 round groups with and without the can.Pros: Ear pro not necessary (to a certain extent), easier to communicate with a partner in the field quietly (shooter/spotter), very different game reaction to shots, reduced recoil, reduced muzzle blast. I also like that it reduces my profile to other hunters in the area. Cons: Added weight, added length, added potential failure point, cost.That brings a whole new meaning to the saying "Canned Hunt"! Sorry, couldn't resist. Sooo, you guys all suck! Why? Because I have wanted one for some time and it sounds great all the way around. Now I kind of need one. I have two pellet guns with them and they are great. I can not imagine not having them as they both are loud without the cans on. On the muzzle brake statement, I had a lever 45/70 with one and after ONE session I got rid of the gun. Not for me. So for you guys running cans, I have had bad crown jobs that after correction shot great. Which do you think has the most accuracy impact, the crown on the barrel, or the crown on the end of the suppressor? Also, are you all running sub sonic? I have heard canned guns shot both ways, and while the super sonic had the 'ripping' sound going down range, the muzzle noise was gone for the most part, making it easier on the ears.
Thanks!I hit a few suppressor sites last night and one (Silencer Central?) had a vid on different mounting systems, including the "Tri Lug" spring loaded twist lock set up. I had no clue there were that many, but I should not have been surprised. One also had some good info about how and why suppressors will not work on some semi autos, and cures for some of them. For me at this point IF I get one it will be for a single shot that is already threaded 1/2X28, so 'easy peasy' direct thread.
