Big Game Hunting > Wolves
Imported canadian wolf kills
bearpaw:
--- Quote ---By the way If michelle mondot said she WITNESSED TWICE and Scott Fitkin said Not enough EVIDENCE! By the way Michelle should have shot them to protect their livestock and any Rancher SHOULD! I cant afford loose my livestocks.
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Enough of this happens and I think we can pressure County Commissioners and Legislators to request a replacement of a WDFW biologist.
Remember, the WDFW is going to have to get extra money from the legislature for the wolf program. Legislators can make effective requests that get results because they have to pass any legislation requesting WDFW funding. Many of the county commissioners are against these wolves right now. If we write to them and show them how this biologist Fitkins will always say and do things to protect wolves they might ask the legislators to get a biologist that is not biased, a biologist with actual wolf experience in Idaho or Montana and who is not opposed to hunting as a tool for managemement. (Hunting could eventually save this state hundreds of thousands of wolf management dollars when wolf numbers explode like we all know they will.)
This is why we all need to keep posting these stories on this public forum and we need to report every incident to the authorities. Then when the authorities keep dismissing evidence as not being wolves eventually someone will have to answer for this.
Write letters to the county commissioners and legislators complaining that the state is being inadequate in their wolf management. :bash: Eventually when DFW needs money they may have to answer to the legislature for this failure to cooperate to public damage complaints. ;)
It all boils down to "money" being the possible solution for getting wolf management to include hunting of wolves.... ;)
Right now it is important that we get the commission to include "hunting" in the wolf plan as the "eventual" management tool. :twocents:
bearpaw:
Remember....nothing happens without money....legislators have more control than you realize, they will have to approve management money and they can attach strings to this money, "getting an experienced biologist that will work with the people who need help".
WRITE TO YOUR COUNTY COMMISSIONER AND LEGISLATORS
It don't have to be long, just send short notes explaining why you think the WDFW is not responding to livestock damage problems. :twocents:
Also send short notes explaining that you are concerned about sportsmen not coming to these counties to hunt anymore. Sportsmens dollars are important to county commissioners, county commissioners work closely with legislators and can request the legislators to do something about this situation....legislators can do something about this when the WDFW needs money..... ;)
The squeeky wheel always gets the grease. ;)
I will post commissioner and legislator contact info: USE IT ;)
WAcoyotehunter:
--- Quote from: bearpaw on August 13, 2009, 06:07:21 AM ---
--- Quote ---By the way If michelle mondot said she WITNESSED TWICE and Scott Fitkin said Not enough EVIDENCE! By the way Michelle should have shot them to protect their livestock and any Rancher SHOULD! I cant afford loose my livestocks.
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Enough of this happens and I think we can pressure County Commissioners and Legislators to request a replacement of a WDFW biologist.
If we write to them and show them how this biologist Fitkins will always say and do things to protect wolves they might ask the legislators to get a biologist that is not biased, a biologist with actual wolf experience in Idaho or Montana and who is not opposed to hunting as a tool for managemement.
This is why we all need to keep posting these stories on this public forum and we need to report every incident to the authorities. Then when the authorities keep dismissing evidence as not being wolves eventually someone will have to answer for this.
Write letters to the county commissioners and legislators complaining that the state is being inadequate in their wolf management. :bash: Eventually when DFW needs money they may have to answer to the legislature for this failure to cooperate to public damage complaints. ;)
It all boils down to "money" being the possible solution for getting wolf management to include hunting of wolves.... ;)
Right now it is important that we get the commission to include "hunting" in the wolf plan as the "eventual" management tool. :twocents:
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I agree with much of what you're saying. The state needs dedicated wolf biologists- the state needs money for wolf surveys and tracking to gather evidence for delisting, the state could also use some help from people like us. Where are all of you when they need volunteers? That's not a challenge- i know lots of us are busy, but many of us could help out here and there. Give it a shot.
Have you ever met Scott Fitkin? I have- he's a reasonable person and a sharp biologist. Put yourself in his shoes and try to imagine the idiots he deals with every day because of this... I don't blame him for being skeptical on wolf reports and depredation. Just because an animal is dead in wolf country does not mean wolves killed it (though it's always a possibility) there has to be some evidence that can make it seem legit. It sounds like the chicken killing incident may or may not have been a wolf...who knows if it was a coyote, or a neighbors dog? I don't blame Scott Fitkin for asking the questions...that's his job.
Why don't some of you ask to volunteer for a day? I bet a day in the field with a bio would be helpful. Who knows- if nothing else you have an audience for your stance on wolves. Maybe there would be some useful dialogue. :dunno:
bearpaw:
Don't know the man....But when I read his comments they are missing any kind of reassuring comments. Maybe something like this would not make it look like he is not anti-hunting or anti wolf management.....
"We are concerned about this incident and while we can not confirm wolves were responsible for killing the livestock, we will closely monitor the wolves in this area to try and prevent possible future predations."
I guess it is up to him to show people why we should employ him!
Right now everything I read indicates he is doing the community, the ranchers, and the wolf no favors by trying to cover their tracks. :twocents:
It certainly raises some questions...... :dunno:
Is Fitkins in favor of eventual wolf management by hunting?
Why does the wolf plan not include hunting as the eventual management tool?
Who makes recommendations for the plan, maybe the biologist?
mulehunter:
:dunno: what I learn that I believe this what happen to michelle and larry, maybe Gary and few Rancehr will start to share a good chat in town.
ONCE wolve made a kill on next livestock will be SHOT so soon Scott Fitkin will better confirmed wolves did this.
I am postive those rancher won't get cited for shoot wolves right afte livestock are killed.
State law allowed us we must protect our animals and our children and our rancher. We pay tax on property. Don't even think u can control us and allow wolves eat some of ours.
I heard they all ranchers are totally angry today. Whoa..... And most rancher totally disagree with scott fitkin. So am I. After 3 newspapers
Game are ON.
Oh by the way how do we know it was coyote or dogs or anything. We will shoot right there and here ur evidence.
Good luck.
Mulehunter