game department check point

[countywarrior]

Redneck was teased as a little boy. .... Cut him some slack     Without guys like this in the woods are Wardens wouldnt have a job....... Good luck Redneck....

[heavy hauler]

if you are driving in the woods can the game wardens check you and your equipment? what if your gun is in a case locked in the back? that argument"if your legal then dont worry"  doesn't really cut it in the woods any better than it does in our homes.

[countywarrior]

and another.......

[Sneekee23]

   Personally I think that anyone who has been ticketed for any fish and game violation should be banned for life from hunting and fishing in any state.  Call it harsh but in all actuality for all of us who obey the laws and can actually read should not have to put up with this bs. 
   You hear about it every year a bow hunter who is up scouting during rifle season out with his or her family and friends.  But oh ya they have the right do to the fact that he or she is legal because they can shoot a coyote with their hunting licence that is sitting in the glove box.  Or the rifle hunter who has a bow tag for deer so he or she is bow hunting deer in September and is out bugling at every spot they can drive up to.  But hang on, that rifle hunter is now a bow hunting for elk do to the fact that he or she can shoot an elk with their bow and drive down to the nearest store and buy a damn bow tag for elk after the fact. 
   There should be several Game Wardens in every unit setting up stings exc. and State Patrol Officers at every access point and check points.   The real sh___ aspect of all this is the fact that these so called hunters oh i mean killers is the fact that their kids are brought up with the same values.

[cmiller85]

Personally I think that anyone who has been ticketed for any fish and game violation should be banned for life from hunting and fishing in any state.  Call it harsh but in all actuality for all of us who obey the laws and can actually read should not have to put up with this bs.

I don't understand the reasoning here....Does this mean that everyone cited for any traffic violation should be banned from driving a car in every other state as well? The problem here is that everyday, good, honest and ethical hunters can make an honest mistake. Worse yet, a Game Warden could make questionable judgement call (mistake) and there would be no more hunting for you. This would tie up the courts in lawsuits.

As far as citations go, they are necessary and beneficial in certain situations, but not all situations are the same. It is for this reason that Wardens need to be allowed to use some discretion. The problem is likely due to the rediculous standards the WDFW has set forth for its Wardens to follow. The Game Wardens, as it has been argued, aren't necessarily the "Bad Guys" simply because they issue rediculous citations; However, Under no circumstance should an obvious, unintentional violation carry the same penalty as a blatant disregard for the law. Its absurd.

This is especially true since anyone with a shred of so called "Common Sense" can poach any day of the week and get away with it; check points or not. Check points aren't going to necessarily stop poaching. For Instance, I could go shoot any big game animal, correctly notch my tag, go through a check point and stop at Wal-Mart on the way home and say I "Lost" my other tag. Without any questions asked, they would print me a new tag right then and there for $8. Then I'm free to go out and shoot another animal the very next day. So just because a Game Warden checks a hunter who has properly notched his tag doesn't mean the hunter hasn't poached an animal.

Whether it was the Game Warden being an A-Hole or just following a rediculous order from WDFW, it is still rediculous to cite a hunter as though he was deliberately trying to break the law when a 5-second observation of the situation would indicate otherwise.

[Sneekee23]

Really is that "Common Sense".    Like I said maybe I am being a little harsh. 

[Skyvalhunter]

Sneekee your being ridiculous. So if a guy doesn't get the barb on his hook filed completely flat in a barblesss area and gets cited for it he should be banned for life in every state? Your being too extreme and I am sure if a gammie wanted to write you a ticket for something you have done in the past he could have.

[DOUBLELUNG]

I can see giving a ticket to someone who intentionaly was trying to hide something or do something wrong but this ws not the case and he did not have to give that ticket. Laws are laws I know but they are there to keep the dishonest honest not to penalize someone for such a simple mistake. If he was trying to hide it I could understand to, but it ws hanging in plain site he ws just so excited he forgot to notch the month.   that try to make themselves sound smarter than the rest. Did you realy think I do not know the laws. Cop's give warnings all the time that is all he had to do. My budy is a Fireman too it did not look good on his record, Gamy was just being an a@#hole.

First of all, the decision whether to issue a verbal or written warning, or a citation, is at the officer's discretion, not the rude and disrespectful a-hole hunting buddy's discretion.  Second of all, it is not always at the officer's discretion; if it was a high crime area, he may have been working under instructions to cite every violation.  Third, because other hunters - and nonhunters - complain about lax enforcement and demand more citations, officers get instructed to write most if not all violations detected.

The officer usually knows what they are going to do with each type of violation, before they detect it.  However, they also make decisions based on other factors.  When you - or your camp - are rude, disrespectful, belligerent, threatening, whatever, the last thing an enforcement officer wants to do is reward bad behavior.  You and your attitude may have gotten your buddy his ticket.

[M.Tumlinson]

I've seen two in my 12 years of hunting. I know they can be mean, people know the few of the wards by name where we hunt. I still understand there only doing their job. Imagine if there weren't any, think of the havoc and cheating that would go on. If your not doing anything wrong you have nothing to hide. If you don't like their attitude, deal with it. Everyone should know by now there are people in this world your not going to like or get along with. That's life deal with it and move on, no biggie.

[M.Tumlinson]

I read just fine, and considering the threatening email you sent to me, I confirm your inability to deal with the truth, and buck up to the consequences of not following the rules.

Look dude, someone has to step up and set a good example for society, it may be a cop, or a gamie, or just an average hunter who decides to follow the rules which govern our sport. Be a man and take the consequences of your actions without trying to label the gamie a bad guy.

I like you! Couldn't have said it better.

[Bean Counter]

By signing the license, you may consent to be detained while hunting (ie, you have a rifle in your hands and you're walking through the woods), but sooner or later these checkpoints will go all the way up to the Supreme Court and the issue will be settled there.  Its going to go something like this: two cholos drive up to the checkpoint after harvesting some of their forest weed. They're not dressed in camo nor do they have rifles or other hunting gear visible. Game officers Look under the tarp of their truck and discover the MJ. Vehicle occupants are arrested for drug trafficking.

The court will rule on whether suspicionless seizures of this nature have a law enforcement benefit that outweighs the temporary detention that the citizen endures while the gamie makes his inspection.  The SCOTUS has previously ruled suspicionless checkpoints legal for both DUI and Border Patrol Checkpoints.

[turkey buster]

afterward the gamy was very aware of our opinion and I can tell you I do not feel bad about scaring the *censored* out of the guy before he left camp. Gamy or not

this post was about check points and the gamy's being rude, huh wonder why? keep up the good work
chuck

[heavy hauler]

i cant legally hunt from my truck , so therefore i am not hunting when i drive up to the checkpoint

[ww1rdb]

yup I am of the half who thinks we need more gammies in the field...not all in one place of course...remember when St. Helens first opened back up they had one or 2 guys running raggedly with pickups full of illegal elk in the bed..

as for the lack of respect I would imagine if you saw the jerks they deal with during the season you would wonder..I hunt deer in Okanogan and rarely ever see a warden.. in fact in 34 years I think I have seen one 2 times..

this year we met one on the way out to hunt a different area..well he stopped us and checked licenses and guns and at first was very abrupt..well we kidded around with him and by the time we left he was happy....seems the new kid he was training was late so he was alone...

in fact he kept looking at my buddies Leupold Binos and saying sure wish you had a violation I like those binos...hahaha...kept my swarovskis hidden...so I would like to see more of them out there but that is just my opinion...last thing, the only time i have seen that many wardens in one place was when clam season first opens...hahahaha

the best to you all....

[GEARHEAD]

the more the better i say, i'd be willing to participate in a special tax even to get more on board. anything to help reduce slob road huners, trespassers, quad hunting etc. i believe in fair chase, i believe in following rules, it only makes for better time in the woods and better company.
i would like to see a more pro-active old school approach to their law enforcement practices, seems they have gotten abit lazy, sitting at check points and hanging around butcher shops hoping to find a torn or cut tag. i would like to see them in the woods, and not driving a gold ford. i would like to see them setting decoys more for the raod hunters and trespassers that have overwelmed the palouse area i hunt. where i hunt, a simple decoy would guarantee a couple dozen arrests a day.