Hunter shoots another hunter???

[bearhunter59]

What's the deal, eastsiders?  KIRO7 just did a short report on some "coyote hunter" shooting another hunter that just happen to be an off-duty deputy...somewhere on the eastside....What the full story guys???

[jstamp]

Just kidding. Hopefully the guy didn't die. I wonder if, what happened was the shooter was a convicted felon and shouldn't have been hunting, and recognized the deputy and shot him.

[Ray]

News just said deputy and other fellow were both hunting. It didnt say they were together and the news claimed that the police say it is all an accident but the shooter was in custody.  Maybe for further investigation or to corroborate his story or something. They said the deputy was shot in the back and flown over to the wet side for hospital care. Incident was apparently near Soap Lake.

[mossback91]

http://www.krem.com/topstories/stories/krem2_011008_offdutydeputyshot.e45b1e4.html

[bowhuntin]

That sucks, doesn't sound like the shooter identified his target before he took the shot

[jstamp]

Accident my ASS!  >:(Sure, he might not have intended to shoot someone, but in order to get a hunting license in this state you have to pass a hunter education course (unless you were born before 72) and in that course they stress identifying your target and knowing your back stop. Hopefully, the cop will make it, and not have any long term effects.

[rainshadow1]

Really sad. From the story it sounds like there's an outside chance the shooter didn't see the victim, like he was several hilltops away or something... But it's not likely. Likely just a really, really, REALLLLLLLY BAD decision. Very sad. Hope he recovers.

[jstamp]

 MOSES LAKE, Wash. -- A 38-year-old Moses Lake man accused of shooting a an off-duty Grant County Sheriff's deputy last week is now charged with four felonies. Robbie Marcher made his first appearance in court Monday afternoon and KREM 2 News was the only TV station to attend.

Grant Co. Sheriff's Office

26-year-old Dep. Earl Romig is in critical condition.

Investigators say Marcher shot Deputy Earl Romig Thursday afternoon near Soap Lake while hunting coyotes.

Marcher told authorities he thought he heard a coyote call, pointed his rifle-- which had a scope-- and fired. The bullet struck Romig in the back. He fell to the ground and began calling for help.

Police reconstructed the shooting and found that Marcher should have been able to clearly see the deputy even without a scope.

Marcher admitted during interviews with police he "knew at the time he might have shot a person instead of a coyote", but never called police or went to see if he hit anything. In addition, Marcher was not even supposed to have a gun because of past criminal convictions.

Dan Jackson, KREM 2 News

Robbie Marcher faces four charges in connection with the shooting of an off-duty Grant Co. Sheriff's deputy.

A judge has set his bail at $70,000.

Romig is in serious condition at a Seattle hospital. According to family members, he's been in extreme pain.

This really pisses me off, this crack head shouldn't have even owned a gun, nevertheless been out there hunting. I'll bet, during the course of the trial we found out that he was either high or drunk at the time of shooting.

[MikeWalking]

Got an idea...

Can one of the Site Administrators set up a way for us to send an Ecard through the Sheriffs office?

[Ray]

I'm all for wishing someone a speedy recovery but our site is not geared for that suggestion. In addition to that I don't have any desire to contact the sheriff's office and speak with them on the matter.

[MikeWalking]

'nuff said.

[GoldTip]

This is a horrible tragedy.  I hope the shooting was an accident, but hope the shooter does some serious jail time as he was not even supposed to be in posession of a firearm, and that in and of itself demonstrates an utter disregard for the law.  Best wishes to the man who was shot.

[Crunchy]

I say criminal history check before you can buy a hunting license.  But I'm sure a bunch of liberals would have a heart attack about "their" rights.

[huntingnut]

If you can't posses a firearm how is it legal to have a hunting license. I know you can hunt with a bow that is not considered a firearm, but you have a criminal record that won't allow you to posses a firearm, you are not of right mind to hunting.

[popeshawnpaul]

He is a three time convicted felon.  While he lost his gun rights, there is nothing to say he couldn't have had those restored by a court...  He has multiple law violations including a fish/game violation.  When they sell you a hunting license they don't have the ability at this time to check criminal history.  Even if they could, it wouldn't tell you everything you need to know.

He was charged with two felonies from what I can tell, unlawful possession of a firearm and assault third degree.  If he was shooting at a coyote as he says, he just admitted to at least two more criminal game/law violations that he hasn't been charged with...  My guess, he'll plea to one charge, they'll dismiss the other, and he'll do a short time in jail. 

Shawn

[MikeWalking]

I say criminal history check before you can buy a hunting license.  But I'm sure a bunch of liberals would have a heart attack about "their" rights

Whens the last time a "Lib" tried to buy a Hunting License?

[Machias]

Dep Romig is in intense pain in his lower back and right leg according to the daily posting by his family.  It also says the moron that shot him was 100 yards or less and it was clear.  He had a scoped rifle, but they said he could should have easily seen the Deputy even without a scope.  After the shot he should have been able to hear the Deputies cries for help, and admitted to thinking he might have just shot someone, but decided to walk away without rendering first aid.  I wonder if through the scope or some other means he knew exactly who he was shooting at?  I hope he fries hard!!

[rainshadow1]

3 time loser "accidently" shoots a Deputy? Hmmmmmmm....

[bearhunter59]

you can loose your right to own or be in possession of a firearms for a lot of stupid stuff in this state.  Just getting a domestic violence CHARGE, not conviction, but a CHARGE.  And what can be classified as domestic violence is ridiculous.....just getting in a yelling match can be considered mental abuse, and you can be charged with domestic violence, which is enough to keep you from being able to hunt.  I beleive domestic violence is wrong, but I also don't thing someone should loose their right to hunt or possess guns just for getting in a yelling match with someone....

(And before any of you come on here and say I'm full of it, let me tell you I know this for a fact...wasn't me, but someone I know and that is exactly what happened.)

At the rate that this state keeps coming up with more ways to control us, in the next couple of years, I'd be willing to bet, they have found a way to get all of us with some sort of misdemeanor violation.  Hell, just cussing on WDFW land could get you a misdemeanor violation nowadays...

[Head-shot]

... After the shot he should have been able to hear the Deputies cries for help, and admitted to thinking he might have just shot someone, but decided to walk away without rendering first aid.  I wonder if through the scope or some other means he knew exactly who he was shooting at?  I hope he fries hard!!

3 time loser "accidently" shoots a Deputy? Hmmmmmmm....

I'm with you brothers, Spark em up! I think he knew what he was doing, just a bad shot.

[ICEMAN]

you can loose your right to own or be in possession of a firearms for a lot of stupid stuff in this state.  Just getting a domestic violence CHARGE, not conviction, but a CHARGE.  And what can be classified as domestic violence is ridiculous.....just getting in a yelling match can be considered mental abuse, and you can be charged with domestic violence, which is enough to keep you from being able to hunt.  I beleive domestic violence is wrong, but I also don't thing someone should loose their right to hunt or possess guns just for getting in a yelling match with someone....

(And before any of you come on here and say I'm full of it, let me tell you I know this for a fact...wasn't me, but someone I know and that is exactly what happened.)

At the rate that this state keeps coming up with more ways to control us, in the next couple of years, I'd be willing to bet, they have found a way to get all of us with some sort of misdemeanor violation.  Hell, just cussing on WDFW land could get you a misdemeanor violation nowadays...

Sorry dude, I will take your challenge.... but BS. (sort of...)

The only time a charge of domestic violence will get you denied from owning a gun, is before you have a finding in the case. (This arrest/denial is not permanent)  Would you rather that every angry person arrested for Domestic violence have the right to run out and buy a gun? Ain't going to happen...

Like them or not, the DV laws are set up to protect the innocent. Most married couples do not have the police called to their homes to break up DV fights. These types of calls are usually indicative of bigger problems, DV laws were established to address the violence that was occuring behind the walls of these homes. Have there been instances where good folks have had the police called in? Sure.   Have there been times when someone has lost their gun rights due to a poorly timed call to law enforcement? Sure. But on the whole, DV laws have protected alot of children and spouses from years of abuse, injury and death. If some jerk cannot control himself enough to keep himself out of handcuffs, I really am not going to lose any sleep over his inability to run down to billybobs gun mart, and now get himself a pistol or hunting rifle. Welcome to bowhunting....

(sorry to all the good bowhunter guys and gals...)

[bearhunter59]

Iceman--call BS all you want, but those were the facts as I stated...Facts are Facts...opinions aren't...I love it when people try to dispute the facts with opinions and beliefs...if you want to dispute my facts, then use some actual facts to prove me wrong, otherwise I call BS, you don't know what your talking about...

[ICEMAN]

bearhunter59, if I read your post correctly, you lead the reader to believe that a friend of yours was charged with a crime of domestic violence and this 'charge' was "enough to keep you (him) from being able to hunt...."

Are you saying he was temporarily denied his right to own a gun, and hunt with it, IE: until a final disposition to the case? Or are you saying that because of the original charge (not conviction) of domestic violence, that your friend permanently lost his right to possess firearms , irregardless of the outcome of the case?

I would like to know this information before I blow you out of the water on this issue.

[bearhunter59]

not sure why your trying to keep this going, but I have no desire to continue down this road.  if you want to keep it going, start a new thread or something, but we've kind of wandered off the thread here...

[ICEMAN]

Not sure why? I will tell you why;

Because I called you on it.
I disagree with the information you posted.
Your comment is vague.
You stated that your comment is the 'truth'.
I am an anal retentive ( Freudian Psychology, look it up...)
I work daily with information like this, and would like to set the record straight for folks reading this post.
And, finally, you claimed that I do not know what I am talking about, I don't like that.

Iceman--call BS all you want, but those were the facts as I stated...Facts are Facts...opinions aren't...I love it when people try to dispute the facts with opinions and beliefs...if you want to dispute my facts, then use some actual facts to prove me wrong, otherwise I call BS, you don't know what your talking about...

So, I will say it again, state your "facts", and I will dispute them in a relatively civil format. I will use real 'facts', state and federal laws, not opinions or beliefs.

[Skyvalhunter]

Enough on this thread!!

[ICEMAN]

Ok, Bearhunter59, you are the one who wander off the thread topic, and now refuse to argue your point, not me, I was simply following your lead. (Besides, I never did read any 'fact' that you were talking about.)

Here is the point I was waiting to make with Bearhunter59... that if you are arrested for any crime of Domestic Violence....you will be denied any firearm transfer (purchase, trade, sale...) while your case is pending....until your case is final. If you are then found guilty of a non-felony, non-DV case, you get your gun rights back. If you are found guilty of a Felony, or a Misdemeanor crime of Domestic Violence, you lose your gun rights. Plain and simple.

All dismissals will return your gun rights to their previous status. No one is losing any gun rights for the long haul, just because they were "charged" with a DV crime.

Bearhunter59, here are 'facts'...;

http://www.fbi.gov/hq/cjisd/nics/mcdvbrochure.htm
http://www.atf.treas.gov/firearms/legal/prohibitions.htm
http://www.fbi.gov/hq/cjisd/nics/nicsfact.htm

[Bofire]

 :)Back to the thread subject,
I was in Soap Lake when this happened, calling. I stayed at an old friends place in Moses Lake that night. The guy 'Marcher' is well known in the area as a total loser idiot, he was with his Dad when this happened.

I sure hope the Deputy is ok and can get back to his career.
Carl

[MikeWalking]

The Deputy has been in the local news a lot lately. Starting to walk some, he may still lose use of his leg. Got married at Harborview.  Kinda po'ed the talking heads haven't said anything about the a**h*** that shot him.