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Alert: SB 6813 - WDFW Elimination
bigtex:
--- Quote from: Kain on February 12, 2010, 07:05:03 PM ---Thanks bigtex that was interesting. To me it seems like a problem that has some options to make it work either way. So many times we are referred to State Police when dealing with wildlife issues anyways. :dunno: Deputizing DNR officers or giving the funding to State police to hire specialized officers seems reasonable to me.
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The reason why you are referred to the state patrol for fish/wildlife issues is because they (WA State Patrol) dispatch WDFW officers. The state patrol dispatches WDFW, DNR, USFS, State Parks, and Liquor Control Board officers, so if you ever need to report a violation you call the state patrol.
No hunter/fisher, county sheriff wants to see the state patrol become a natural resource agency like it is in oregon. This causes many problems and pisses a lot of people off, not a good idea
Kain:
--- Quote from: bigtex on February 13, 2010, 10:14:40 AM ---
--- Quote from: bearpaw on February 12, 2010, 10:17:07 PM ---Bigtex that certainly brings another piece of wood to the fire. Some officers are spending a lot of time with speeders and woodcutters. That doesn't seem quite right to me, I think wildlife dollars should be spent stopping poachers rather than worrying about wood permits and people breaking the speed limit in a speed zone, that's what other law enforcement agencies are for. :twocents:
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Well actually one of DFW officers main duties are to enforce laws that are known as special forest products which are things like salaal, mushroom, fern pickers and wood cutters. This is mainly because it is a natural resource law. Last year after the Natural Resource Reform ideas went thru one of the final outcome regarding enforcement was that WDFW officers assist DNR officers in more wood cutting cases because DNR officers are spread so thin.
Right now WDFW officers are actually limited by agency policy as to how much traffic enforcement they do. No WDFW officer has a radar gun for speed enforcement however there are some that pull over for other traffic violations. I know some WDFW officers who say they will only do a traffic stop if it is a dangerous situation such as DUI or agressive driving, but there are other WDFW officers who say they are police officer with a Fish/Wildlife emphasis however they will do a traffic stop if there is a law violation
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I have no problem with WDFW officers enforcing all wildlife laws including plant life. I dont even have a problem with the enforcing all law while out on patrol. At least they will be out in the woods where they can be seen, which will cause lawbreakers to think twice. The problem is there are not enough game officers. I ran into an officer this year, it was the first one I had seen in over ten years. I have been out hunting with my dad since I was two years old and have only been stopped by a game warden three times ever. The criminals know they wont get caught.
I dont want to see the WDFW eliminated I just want it to be run far differently than it is now. I hope they see that their lefty hippy animal rights buddies have no problem sacrificing them in order to further the agenda. We hunters and fishers should be partners with the WDFW but as my email states they have always turned their back on us.
Hangfire:
The wood cutters I am referring to are not people taking a little wood along the road. They are cutting roads in and clear cutting areas that are acres in size. They are responsible for getting a lot of the timber company lands roads closed by cutting logs decked up, prime trees for fire wood and stealing equipment. The new land purchased in southern Pend Orielle county by DFW has a history of complete disrespect by these people.
DFW has a lot of problems. You talk to employees and many are very upset by where they have to put there priorities, they don't get to do what they would like, in many cases. If we loose the commission, it is really going to take a down turn.
wolfbait:
--- Quote from: Hangfire on February 13, 2010, 06:28:57 PM ---The wood cutters I am referring to are not people taking a little wood along the road. They are cutting roads in and clear cutting areas that are acres in size. They are responsible for getting a lot of the timber company lands roads closed by cutting logs decked up, prime trees for fire wood and stealing equipment. The new land purchased in southern Pend Orielle county by DFW has a history of complete disrespect by these people.
DFW has a lot of problems. You talk to employees and many are very upset by where they have to put there priorities, they don't get to do what they would like, in many cases. If we loose the commission, it is really going to take a down turn.
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Thanks for clarifying, I did not know that was happening. Over in the Methow it's seems to be a big deal if the USFS cops can bust someone cutting fire wood along the road. I guess the USFS think they run a business.
Wacenturion:
'If we loose the commission, it is really going to take a down turn.'
Not necessarily..............they're just another bureaucratic appendage of WDFW. I use to think they and the process were valuable...............no longer so, as I really don't see what benefit they have served for Washington's sportsman. They just go with whatever WDFW purposes, and we all know where they roll.
You know, if they would just occasionally hold the Director or his staff accountable and call them on the carpet once in a while, I might feel different. However they do not, therefore it's just a group of folks that really do nothing more than attend meaningless meetings. All we need is a Director with a pair, willing to stand up for us and take on the nonexistent tree hugger bogey man that WDFW thinks is out there. Enough already!
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