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WA court: Farmer had right to shoot cherry-picking elk

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mossback91:
I think he should have a tall tight all welded steel fence, but in away he had to shoot them if the game department wasnt going to do anything to help out a bit. I cant really say I dont have the fulls tory and dont know the complete truth to make my decision complete.

Ray:
It's true we don't have the whole story. To me if he was telling the WDFW to get people over there and help him take care of it (a damage hunt) then it sounds like the state dropped the ball and that they also knew that this was not something which erupted overnight. Given that he went out there shooting himself I would suggest that he was willing to allow hunters on his property to take care of it but you never know..

The biggest factor why I would agree with the ruling is that I would find it hard to believe he killed 20 elk - but might have 2 which he was originally convicted of. Is that what 20 counts of waste and poaching means? It sounds like someone was trying to trump up false charges to me or that there was a vendetta against the guy.

Bofire:
In 1972 I worked at Lake Terrel Game Area. I got sent out on a complaint response to Elk eating and trashing a large corn field, down near Concrete.
I went down there on different occassions; with 2 inch fire crackers on a timer string, a giant air cannon, an automatic siren, a shotgun with these "cracker" shells that flew out then popped, shot gun with bird shot, dogs, and other than pissing off the farmer and destroying the corn accomplished nothing. There was a strict protocall on what I could do.
Finally they told me to shoot some of the offenders. I headed out with with my 7mm. but got called back and "issued" a Remington 721 in .222. and ammo.
Went on out, killed 7 elk, and they went away for a while.
the end.
I quit the dept. about 6 months later, couldn't take it.
Dont sound like they improved much!
Carl
 

ICEMAN:
Been gone all weekend. Many have touched on the angle I need help understanding:

Don't farmers plan on drought, fire, locust, poor crop output, poor soil conditions, poor this, poor that? Ever have bugs and mice eating someones crop? Do cherry farmers put netting up to keep bird damage down? Ever install anything to light up or turn on in the case of frost? Spray for insects? Ever use satelite GPS tracking to determine how much weed killer to apply in your fields? Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, and yes.

You know what....*censored* happens! Plan on it! If your damn cherry trees are so valuable, put a fence around them. The taxpayers have already paid for the roads to your farm, the dam for your water, tax breaks on your land, subsidized this and subsidized that. We have turned a blind eye on illegal labor working your fields, all so you can make a profit.

Very easy to take your vengence out on a group of elk that need to eat.

Farmers already plan on dealing with every conceivable problem encountered in nature, but deer and elk are "waaaaaayyyyy" different. Nope, they never saw this coming! They never thought that elk could actually eat their profits up!!!???  Nope! "It is the states fault that the states deer and elk are eating my trees!!!" 

Go get a loan and fence your own property on your dime and quit crying about it!  You do not see the state fencing off private land in the suburbs to keep the deer out of anyones yard cause they are eating the tomatoes and flowers! What in the hell are we doing in this state anyway? Why is it my problem that some farmers never planned to deal with elk with their own fence?

 Are you pumping water this year? Spreading fertilizer this year? Spraying for bugs this year? Spending money on labor this year?

For gods sake, sell a sliver of your land and finance your own damn fence! Leave my Fing elk alone!

If we are going to pay for the damn fence, we may as well pay for the fertilizer, herbicide, water and labor as well! Wheat farmers are going to start wanting fences to keep the mice out!

Curly:
Well said, Iceman.

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