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Ray:
Thanks for setting my crooked brain straight.

Krusty:
Fred,

Did you not say "it's legal as long as there are no modern firearms deer or elk season's open."?

Modern firearm deer and elk seasons are not open in June. ;) Bobcat and raccoon seasons are not open. And neither is night hunting.

"As long as" is too ambiguous.

I didn't mean to imply you were advocating unlawful hunting, but it would be really easy for someone to misread and misunderstand what you wrote.

To me, the night hunting, and the use of hounds needs to be addressed seperately, in the regs.
It seems they tried to do so, by seperating the paragraphs, but they always try to cut corners.
In this case, just so they don't have to write the months down twice, or because they share a time frame, they have severely confused the issue.
On your line of thinking, why didn't they combine modern rifle deer season, with duck season... they happen around the same time? :)

One section, headed "Night Hunting", should read;
Bobcat, raccoon, and coyote, may be hunted at night, only during established bobcat and raccoon seasons, EXCEPT that: It is unlawful to hunt any wildlife at night during the months September, October, or November, in any area open to a centerfire deer or elk season.

Then a completely different section, headed "Hound Hunting", should be relating to hounds;
Coyote and raccoon can be hunted with hounds during the established bobcat and raccoon seasons, EXCEPT that: It is unlawful to hunt wildlife with dogs during the months of September, October, or November, in an area open to a centerfire deer or elk season.
The use of hounds to hunt black bear, cougar, or bobcat, is prohibited year round, EXCEPT: During the commision of authorized hunts.
there is no longer a hound hunting license.

It makes ABSOLUTELY no sense to me, to combine, and thereby confuse, what should be two seperate sections.

Maybe you just look "so brave", because I am so chicken? ;)

Krusty

billythekidrock:
Ok guys, can we stick to facts and not "Should read". I am having a hard time keeping up already.

Ray:
I tend to agree with Krusty that there seems to be some ambigous sections in the WAC which can be easy to misinterpret :-)  But at the same time I don't want anything changed because when things change nowadays it seems like you're always sacrificing something unrelated along the way.

Krusty:
Willie,

I'm sorry if you are having trouble keeping up.

So are you saying you like the regs and the WACs exactly as they are written, and don't see anything that needs to be changed?

I do not see the connection between night hunting, and hound hunting.
Not legally, and not in practice.

(*my brother just informed me that many coons hunters hunt with dogs, and at night)

Even if this is the case (night hound hunters), I don't see where it benefits us, to have the rules (of night hunting, and hound hunting) intermingled.

Ray,

I don't see what we could lose, that wouldn't be worth it, for some clarity in the regulations.

In a recent article, from the Grange News, they said re-writing the fishing and hunting regs, so they were easily understood by the common man, was among their top legislative priorities.
The Washington State Trapper's Assoc, and the National Trapper's Assoc, have tried desperately to clear up language left over from before I-713 changed trapping in this state.
And Ducks Unlimited, Trout Unlimited, Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation, and Pheasant Forever, have also all lobbied for clarity.
That's a lot of big organizations, all with the charge of "lookin' out for us", that believe we do need change (and spending a fair amount of OUR money trying).

Krusty

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