Man, I feel stupid. The last post, the words were correct, but the pic should have been under Upland birds. Don't know how I messed it up. Sorry to mess with your thread LOVEMYLABXS. Regardless, my KODAK should be here on the 28th. Can't wait to check it out. BTW $230 for the Z812, with case, tripod, a 4gb chip and shipping included. Thanks for turning me on to the camera LOVEMYLABXS.