The .17hmr is pure fun to shoot. I think the Savages are the best buy for the money. I have a Savage that I've used for 3 years on Rockchucks and Sage Rats, and it's super accurate. I recently picked up a CZ with a BSA Sweet 17 scope and an extra mag for $300, and just took it out to shoot it last Sunday. In all honesty, I like the cheapie Savage better. The one complaint I have is they only make 5 round mags for the .17's. If they can make 10 round mags for the 22 LR, I don't see why they can't make 10 rounders for the .17hmr. My advice is to get the Savage and spend the extra bucks on a good scope.