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| Rick:
I called Hodgdon to get their take. The guy I talked to said to basically close my eyes and pick. He said the difference in speed was so slight (favoring the FFFG) that I'd never notice. He said there was no difference in ignition or cold weather performance. I liked the silver label on the FFFG better so thats what I went with. :chuckle: |
| Sabotloader:
--- Quote from: Rick on April 28, 2011, 03:09:40 PM ---I called Hodgdon to get their take. The guy I talked to said to basically close my eyes and pick. He said the difference in speed was so slight (favoring the FFFG) that I'd never notice. --- End quote --- From the Hodgdon site.... Triple Seven is a high energy product designed to provide the muzzleloading hunter with higher velocities when used in the same VOLUME as blackpowder. To duplicate a blackpowder load velocity using Triple Seven, you must decrease the powder charge by 15%. I believe they use the 10% greater with 3f because it peaks so much faster than 2f. Since it peaks faster the pressure spike is greater as the bullet has not moved down the bore as far as it would with the slower burning 2f. --- Quote ---He said there was no difference in ignition or cold weather performance. --- End quote --- He is correct there is no difference in ignition temp to start either powder burning, but in cold weather, the difference comes in the cold steel of your nipple, BP and Bore. A lot of the heat from the cap is expended and transferred to the nipple and BP, just warming them up to reach the powder and provide enough heat to ignite the powder. With 3f powder and its finer granules it is normally easier to get powder closer to the nipple in some guns and again because the granules are smaller they can heat to ignition temperature quicker than the larger 2f granules. Once you get a few granules going then ignition continues. --- Quote ---I liked the silver label on the FFFG better so thats what I went with. :chuckle: --- End quote --- There has been many big wagers laid on a reason like you have expressed… and there really has been some big winners. Additionally I think you will find that with 3f you normally get a more complete and clean burn. |
| funkster:
I have a 50. cal elkhorn and have been using 100 grains of triple seven FFG with a Barnes 290 tmz or t-ez. I had some problems with the rws #11 caps fitting the nipple properly, switched over to the rws muskets caps and have not had a problems since. Got the rifle sighted in shooting 2 inch groups at 100 yards. |
| Sabotloader:
--- Quote from: funkster on April 28, 2011, 07:20:39 PM ---I have a 50. cal elkhorn and have been using 100 grains of triple seven FFG with a Barnes 290 tmz or t-ez. I had some problems with the rws #11 caps fitting the nipple properly, switched over to the rws muskets caps and have not had a problems since. Got the rifle sighted in shooting 2 inch groups at 100 yards. --- End quote --- Just a note for you... the RWS Dynamit Noble 1075... is really a sized 10.75 halfway between a #10 cap and a #11 cap. It is tight fitting cap in a #11 nipple. But if you can get them on your nipple correctly they are a very good cap and they make an excellent near water tight seal on the nipple. One other thing that I forgot to mention... It is not uncommon for a plunger gun or actually any hammer gun to peen the head of a nipple to make fitting a #11 a difficult task, especially if you dry fire the gun. Might try a new nipple when it becomes difficult to install #11's. |
| funkster:
Yeah, I played with the # 11 a few times and even tried to sand the nipple a little, still couldn't get them to ignite every time. I am sold on the rws muskets, shot 2 packs of t-ez and didn't have one cap missfire. It's a no brainer for me. |
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