you ALL need a discover pass for ALL DNR land.

[Klyne3]

bigtex,

So if they are finally giving back the ORV funds does that mean that they are going to open up more riding area's or reopen reiter pit?

[Skyvalhunter]

Reiter will be reopened but will be reduced in size. So many restrictions.

[bigtex]

bigtex,

So if they are finally giving back the ORV funds does that mean that they are going to open up more riding area's or reopen reiter pit?

Well I don't know a whole lot about the NOVA funds. I would expect that the areas that were closed after the shifting of the funds would be reopened. I do know that there will be an increase in enforcement of ORV areas, atleast to what they were before the shifting of the funds. Most sheriff's offices that have ORV areas do get enforcement money from NOVA funds and when the shifting of funds happened the counties either had to fund the ORV patrols on their own or completely eliminate them. So now that the money is back the patrols will begin again.

[Elkaholic daWg]

 Bigtex, How does this apply to tribal hunters?? Might as well at least get some revenue, since it seems nothing else can be done.

[Wazukie]

Going to be interesting to see how they manage enforcing this pass where I live.  It will also be interesting to see how the locals do with all this considering 90% of them have to drive through DNR designated recreation area's on a daily basis.

[logger]

Going to be interesting to see how they manage enforcing this pass where I live.  It will also be interesting to see how the locals do with all this considering 90% of them have to drive through DNR designated recreation area's on a daily basis.

   I wouldn't take that bet for nothin, my guess would be the husum boy's have bigger fish to fry so I don't think enforcement is gonna be a big issue.And I'm damn sure they aren't gonna mess with the locals.

[Wazukie]

I agree Logger that the Husam DNR boys will probably leave the locals alone.  What I'm wondering about is come hunting season, that while I a, parked at a Hancock gate or driving to a gate, that the WDFW, might be a hassle.  I'm just glad that I have a map of who's land is who's and who owns the roads.  Don't really think it will be much of a problem though as there isnt really any enforcement officers out this way.

[bullcanyon]

Maybe I missed it, but who gets the money from the fines that will be written? Can't be the g fund......

Just too bad that our elected officials can't function with accountability. They spent like someone that was getting unlimited overtime and now barely getting their 40 in..... I don't mind paying for something that I use. But I honestly feel like I've already paid my fair share to utilize what this pass gives me access to.
What exactly was the role of government again?.........

[bigtex]

Maybe I missed it, but who gets the money from the fines that will be written? Can't be the g fund......

In regards to the funds from the fines. There are three different RCW's that are applicable for this violation, one for DNR lands, one for WDFW lands and the other for Park lands.

The fines from DNR and Park lands will go the state general fund just like every other DNR or Park violation.

For WDFW all fines that are for violations of RCW 77 (the fish and wildlife code) including this pass either get directed to the county where the ticket was written OR the state general fund. Counties can either retain the funds from RCW 77 violations or they can give those funds to the state general fund and if this happens then WDFW gives Payments In-Lieu of Taxes (PILT) for the lands WDFW owns within the county. So if counties keep the RCW 77 funds they don't get PILT payments, if they give the money to the state they get PILT money. Every year about 30 counties elect to give the RCW 77 money to the state and receive PILT payments.

So the easy answer is just about all the money from the fines will go into the state general fund. There is only about 10 or so counties which usually keep RCW 77 fine money and those are the counties that will get to keep the fines from this violation, and only the violations on WDFW lands.

[bigtex]

Don't really think it will be much of a problem though as there isnt really any enforcement officers out this way.

I thought I would bring this up in regards to DNR enforcement.

DNR has less then 10 armed enforcement officers to cover the state. HOWEVER DNR has about 70 or so limited commissioned employees which can write certain DNR tickets, including this violation. So for DNR areas it will not only be the armed DNR Officers writing tickets, but also also unarmed DNR employees. The USFS also has similar roles of unarmed limited authority employees who write tickets.

[Wazukie]

I guess all of you who like to hunt King Mountain in the West Klick. better get you pass cause from what I can tell fron the map, it's all been designated DNR recreation area.  Going to be interesting to see how it all pans out.

[fair-chase]

I guess all of you who like to hunt King Mountain in the West Klick. better get you pass cause from what I can tell fron the map, it's all been designated DNR recreation area.  Going to be interesting to see how it all pans out.

If that's the case I will be parking inside the rez gate and walking back. I'm so fed up with this money grab I will try to find any legal way around it.

[logger]

Well wazukie, I have a hancock gate key I guess we can park just on the other side of the gate. All bsing aside I don't think enforcement in klickitat county is gonna be a issue, Our dnr guys live here and I don't think this hits their radar at all.

[Wazukie]

Well wazukie, I have a hancock gate key I guess we can park just on the other side of the gate. All bsing aside I don't think enforcement in klickitat county is gonna be a issue, Our dnr guys live here and I don't think this hits their radar at all.

LOL, I agree, I usually park on Hancock land anyway.

[logger]

Things are just different on the klick.