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| HntnFsh:
Start allowing scopes,209 primers etc.A lot of people will be giving up modern to hunt m/l.Think the crowds are bad now.If that happens itll be as bad as rifle season. In fact if it did happen I may just go back to rifle for elk. |
| Head-shot:
I did the survey, and I think WDFW said thanks by not drawing me for any tags. :dunno: |
| marc10000:
I would like to see the rules changed. I think that we as hunters deserve to be able to use the gear that all the manufacturers are offering. The same gear that is in use on the east coast and down south. All the major companies have moved past the legal technology that WA state hunters use. The only weapons we can use are the ones that are discontinued or don't sell elsewhere. A muzzle loader is a muzzle loader whether it be 209, musket, or #11 cap. I've tried them all and there is really isn't that much of an advantage. To me it's about choice in gear. It's about this style of hunting being a hobby and being able to use good equipment. The thing to remember is all these rifles are single shot. All these rifles shoot about the same arc of trajectory. It takes just as long to reload one of these guns whether it's a Hawken or a TC Encore. With our damp weather it's a severe penalty having to keep primer exposed to the elements. I think it's time for this state to reevaluate it's stupid regs. Not everybody wants to play Daniel Boone or Davey Crockett. I don't mean that in a bad way. I just think reading the responses here there are a lot of people that have selfish reasons for keeping things the way they currently are. I don't have an opinion on scopes. I'm not arguing for scopes, just the right to buy a decent state of the art muzzle loader to hunt with. Just to add a little more: Most everybody I talk to has some little trick to get around the regs anyway. People use nail polish on primers, balloons on barrels. saran wrap around nipples, you name it. You all know it's true. Nobody can carry a sidelock or an open inline in a hard rain and expect it to shoot for any length of time. I mean who are we kidding? Now I would never do anything like that. :) The sad part is I checked on using one of my ML 209 rifles in the modern season. I thought I would put a scope on it and use jacketed bullets seeing how I had put so much money into it and really enjoyed using it, but what I found out was if you use a ML in the modern season then you still have to abide by normal ML rules. Outrageous!!!! |
| KillBilly:
Quote from Marc10000 "Just to add a little more: Most everybody I talk to has some little trick to get around the regs anyway. People use nail polish on primers, balloons on barrels. saran wrap around nipples, you name it. You all know it's true. Nobody can carry a sidelock or an open inline in a hard rain and expect it to shoot for any length of time. I mean who are we kidding?" All the little tricks that Dan Boone, Jeramiah Johnson, and thousands had to use. They had to keep their powder and primers dry because they couldn't complain about no being able to use a 209. That's what muzzle loader hunting is all about in this state. You could go to the state that allows them and live and hunt there. |
| marc10000:
Right, like Daniel Boone climbed out of his 35' fifth wheel trailer with satellite dish to scare up some grub. If you aren't leaving the cap exposed to the elements then you are illegal, plain and simple. |
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