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FC:

--- Quote from: thinkingman on September 28, 2011, 11:23:09 AM ---I would suggest the older (simpler!) Toyotas had a lot less to go wrong and much more basic technology.
Recent Toyotas have not kept up (or have been caught from behind) by other makers.
People read Consumer Reports and think Toyota has some kind of magic...CR is just a conduit of label worship.
I will be happy to list TSB's for Toyota vehicles that should never occur in a well-designed and manufactured vehicle.
Care to see the list?
Sorry to hijack thread but......

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That is because you have a personal beef with toyota, ask Jackelope if he will give you a list of tsb's from Dodge...You don't want to see any other manufacturer's list either! Toyota does a lot better on that score than you want to believe.

I have no idea what Consumer Reports has to say, never read it. I just go off of my experiences both working on and driving cars/trucks for the last 20 years.
Happy Gilmore:


That is because you have a personal beef with toyota, ask Jackelope if he will give you a list of tsb's from Dodge...You don't want to see any other manufacturer's list either! Toyota does a lot better on that score than you want to believe.

I have no idea what Consumer Reports has to say, never read it. I just go off of my experiences both working on and driving cars/trucks for the last 20 years.
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Well, he drives a Toyota Tacoma so, he could legitimately have a beef or opinion about his experience with his truck I suppose :dunno:
Miles:

--- Quote from: thinkingman on September 28, 2011, 11:23:09 AM ---I would suggest the older (simpler!) Toyotas had a lot less to go wrong and much more basic technology.
Recent Toyotas have not kept up (or have been caught from behind) by other makers.
People read Consumer Reports and think Toyota has some kind of magic...CR is just a conduit of label worship.
I will be happy to list TSB's for Toyota vehicles that should never occur in a well-designed and manufactured vehicle.
Care to see the list?
Sorry to hijack thread but......

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Post it.  I triple dog dare you.
FC:

--- Quote from: Happy Gilmore on September 28, 2011, 11:46:50 AM ---
Well, he drives a Toyota Tacoma so, he could legitimately have a beef or opinion about his experience with his truck I suppose :dunno:

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Yeah I agree, as do I and thousands of others. No offense but being as I have driven and worked on literally thousands of cars, I think my own observations are a little more astute on this topic. He and I have talked about some of his issues with his tacoma and truthfully they sound much overblown. I've heard about the spring issue he had and there was even a tsb for it. If I hated any vehicle as much as he professes to hate his it would be sold or traded asap.
carpsniperg2:
Dang! This one kinda exploded :chuckle:
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