Condit Dam Blown today.

[cannon-master]

to bad after the river gets back to normal and fish are returning they wont let anybody fish above the hwy 14 bridge thats not a native american enrolled in the yakima indian nation tribal fishing only on the white now.

[pianoman9701]

to bad after the river gets back to normal and fish are returning they wont let anybody fish above the hwy 14 bridge thats not a native american enrolled in the yakima indian nation tribal fishing only on the white now.

Yes, that blows.

[WAcoyotehunter]

is that true?  It does suck if that's the case- but the fish will be moving through and available in some portions...?

http://www.pacificorp.com/es/hydro/hl/condit.html#  runamuk- here is a link with a TON of info about the removal.  The sediment plan does not have a timeline, but it has some cool info about flows, headcuts, banks... 

[PlateauNDN]

Sorry for the answers but in my eyes this is a really good thing.  When I was younger I used to hear my grandfather tell stories about fishing that river prior to the dam being built and he along with many others championed for the dam to be removed.  The cemetary that is near there is where his side of the family is buried and his last surviving brother was buried there but due to the weather he was not able to be buried in his family cemetary but along the river none the less.  I used to drive him up to that area at least twice a month so he may relive his childhood and I wish he was still alive today to see the removal of this dam.  I have one surviving elder, my grandmother and she was born and raised along the klickitat river and in this particular area and to hear her happiness about the removal of this dam made me proud but, her happiness turned to sorrow as she remembers her older brother who did not make it to see this day.

I'm sorry this is not what some want to here but it is how I feel and I'm sticking to it.

[WAcoyotehunter]

Sorry for the answers but in my eyes this is a really good thing.  When I was younger I used to hear my grandfather tell stories about fishing that river prior to the dam being built and he along with many others championed for the dam to be removed.  The cemetary that is near there is where his side of the family is buried and his last surviving brother was buried there but due to the weather he was not able to be buried in his family cemetary but along the river none the less.  I used to drive him up to that area at least twice a month so he may relive his childhood and I wish he was still alive today to see the removal of this dam.  I have one surviving elder, my grandmother and she was born and raised along the klickitat river and in this particular area and to hear her happiness about the removal of this dam made me proud but, her happiness turned to sorrow as she remembers her older brother who did not make it to see this day.

I'm sorry this is not what some want to here but it is how I feel and I'm sticking to it.

That's great- I think it's a good thing too.  Using common sense and removing a few of the lower production dams is ok.  Hopefully with fish ladders and other tools we can have fish/power/wild rivers for everyone to enjoy.

[boneaddict]

Hell, I thought it was a good thing.  I figured it whiped all spawning or eggs that have been layed this fall.  Might not be much of a run in 4 years.    Hopefully and it sounds like they did....some sort of compensation of that big whipeout. 

[Special T]

Some dams may need to go, even tho i don't really like the idea. No matter how we get energy we are going to impart our surrounding environment. What kind of power production impacts it least? I believe it is hydro. I think the retro fitting of dams with ladders is great, however it creates another set of problems like sealions and other predators using the ladders as hunting grounds because it concentrates the fish. It is sure stupidity to talk about blowing dams that make power and promote efficient transportation when we let predators, that ain't endangered, affect the best power source there is.   
PS i realize that sealions were not an issue since there was no ladder on that dam.

[JimmyHoffa]

its all a waste of tax payers money...

Apparently, building the dam in the first place was the waste. We didn't need the power.

Wasn't this done with corporate money?  Remove the 100 year old dam or build fish ladders that went up 125 feet. 

[PlateauNDN]

its all a waste of tax payers money...

Apparently, building the dam in the first place was the waste. We didn't need the power.

Wasn't this done with corporate money?  Remove the 100 year old dam or build fish ladders that went up 125 feet.

Correct.  I believe it was 35 million by the corporation to remove the dam and they said it would cost more than twice the amount to put in the ladders so for them it was cheaper to remove.

[Knocker of rocks]

its all a waste of tax payers money...

Apparently, building the dam in the first place was the waste. We didn't need the power.

Wasn't this done with corporate money?  Remove the 100 year old dam or build fish ladders that went up 125 feet.

Bingo

[pianoman9701]

The dam was built with money from Northwest Electric and private investors from Crown paper originally to power the Camas paper mill. The  cost of re-certifying the dam would've been over $100 million. The cost to demolish it and dredge the remnants of Northwestern Lake is $32 million.

[oldcamper]

There are some others that they have removed the dam on. Up in the schookumchuck area and the Salmon and river have returned faster then they first antisapated. The Salmon  are also getting larger.   

[Huntbear]

to bad after the river gets back to normal and fish are returning they wont let anybody fish above the hwy 14 bridge thats not a native american enrolled in the yakima indian nation tribal fishing only on the white now.

Again... us "non natives" get screwed.   

[swampman]

Quote from: cannon-master on October 27, 2011, 09:02:01 AM
to bad after the river gets back to normal and fish are returning they wont let anybody fish above the hwy 14 bridge thats not a native american enrolled in the yakima indian nation tribal fishing only on the white now.                                 

Again... us "non natives" get screwed.   
Ficken communists! They won't be happy till all the dams are down!

[Boss .300 winmag]

to bad after the river gets back to normal and fish are returning they wont let anybody fish above the hwy 14 bridge thats not a native american enrolled in the yakima indian nation tribal fishing only on the white now.

cannon master where do you get this info from? Me and my brother used to pack sack lunches and disapear all day playing on those side hills west of the dam, when the salmon were running we spent hours watching them stack up in front of the dam thinking what a waste.