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| wildmanoutdoors:
--- Quote from: Mike450r on January 10, 2014, 01:12:15 PM --- --- Quote from: wildmanoutdoors on January 10, 2014, 12:56:31 PM ---IMO bears and other dangerous game don't have that thought process or "realizing" thoughts. Once there mind is made up to charge and eat you you have to stop them before they reach you. When a human gets shot they know form tv, news ect they are wounded and go into a different mode. Animals do not. --- End quote --- I agree and disagree, it depends on the nature of the attack. Sometimes it is kill or be killed but predators of all species have also given up and turned tail after their prey delivers an unexpected butt whuppin. --- End quote --- I agree too. I think it defenatily depends on the situation. If a battle insures, I think they may turn. But one quick hit may not deter at all. If your gonna shoot. Your shooting to stop it before it reaches that battle point. Cause we don't wanna go there with dangerous game. Too many stories about wounded big game getting more po'd. |
| wildmanoutdoors:
After all. A bear can charge full speed for 300 yards or so after it's heart stops! |
| mountainman:
I turned one charge at less then 10 feet. 30/30 from the hip, bear turned, yet lived for maybe 15 minutes after. I would rather do battle with a round in the bear then without!! |
| kodiak 907:
45-70 with at least 405 grain. |
| Jonathan_S:
--- Quote from: wildmanoutdoors on January 10, 2014, 03:02:48 PM ---After all. A bear can charge full speed for 300 yards or so after it's heart stops! --- End quote --- I'm no biologist but this sounds a little extreme :o I know animals are able to keep moving at an incredible speed and length of time after the heart stops but I don't know about a 300 yard charge. --- Quote from: kodiak 907 on January 15, 2014, 07:24:01 AM ---45-70 with at least 405 grain. --- End quote --- :yeah: if that would have been the first and only post, I believe the OP would have all the info they need. I get that a 12 gauge "all gassed up" is appealing but I don't think most of those people are considering the incredible denseness of a grizzly's hide and fat. .45/70s have killed a lot of bear for well over 100 years. The idea that a .45/70s or .450 Marlins or .444s are good for bear hunting but not bear defense is ludicrous. Should I hunt with my .45/70 but carry a shotgun in case they charge :chuckle: |
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