New Discover Pass law is WORSE for Hunters.

[Sumpnneedskillin]

I went back and reread the bill for the 43rd time.  There was already $3 towards dump stations.  They changed the name, reworded, and restructured the paragraph so I got confused.     

Soooo, on top of the $3 you already had to pay you now have to pay $10 until 2015 to support State Parks that have overnite accomodations for RV's.

[6x6in6]

There is already a fee attached to you RV tags so is this in addition to the other fee? Or is this just the total $3?

Not on my 2011 registration.
I wonder if this $3 did not include slide-in campers?
Or maybe they just forgot me. 

[6x6in6]

I went back and reread the bill for the 43rd time.  There was already $3 towards dump stations.  They changed the name, reworded, and restructured the paragraph so I got confused.     

Soooo, on top of the $3 you already had to pay you now have to pay $10 until 2015 to support State Parks that have overnite accomodations for RV's.

Not being a State Park inhabitant, the $3 is a joke.
I dump turds at whichever is the most convenient to me and where I'm coming from:
a) Elk Heights or Smokey Point rest areas
b) Cook Road Shell
c) The sewer clean out in my driveway on it's way to my septic tank, which I put in specifically for this purpose
90% of the time it's c) with the a) or b) utilized the other 10% for the purpose of running a bunch of water into the tanks and sorta "rinsing" on my way home before it gets stored for the winter.

[Dick in the Dirt]

All this talk about the Discover Pass,never have I seen anything on rising park rates for people that use the parks.Rates should be set at what it takes to maintain the parks.Years ago parks were the cheapest place to go with your Rv. KOA don't give away there spots and there still making money.

[The Weazle]

All this talk about the Discover Pass,never have I seen anything on rising park rates for people that use the parks.Rates should be set at what it takes to maintain the parks.Years ago parks were the cheapest place to go with your Rv. KOA don't give away there spots and there still making money.

KOA is a business, if they didnt make money, they wouldnt be here anymore.  State parks is a government run program...I cant explain it any better than that.  My wifes Grandma is 96 and she has lived on the west side her whole life.  She told me that the ferry's used to be private companies, and always made a profit.  Then they were bought by the DOT and have lost money ever since...Wierd!  She says you could give the state a whore house, and all the whores, and they would lose money in the first year!!!

[Sitka_Blacktail]

KOA is a business, if they didnt make money, they wouldnt be here anymore.  State parks is a government run program...I cant explain it any better than that.  My wifes Grandma is 96 and she has lived on the west side her whole life.  She told me that the ferry's used to be private companies, and always made a profit.  Then they were bought by the DOT and have lost money ever since...Wierd!  She says you could give the state a whore house, and all the whores, and they would lose money in the first year!!!

Now your grandmother is a lady I'd like to meet. Straight talkin'!

[hirshey]

The Chelan Butte has required a Discover Pass for the last year... I have never seen a "developed" site on that property. Odd.

[Houndhunter]

i wont buy it, didnt this year either

[bigtex]

The Chelan Butte has required a Discover Pass for the last year... I have never seen a "developed" site on that property. Odd.

If we are talking about the same area, Chelan Butte is a WDFW Wildlife Area and has always required the WDFW Pass and now either the WDFW Pass or Discover Pass is required.

Here is the map of the Chelan Butte unit of the Chelan Wildlfie Area.

http://wdfw.wa.gov/webmaps/gohunt/wildlife_area_pdf/wlau_chelan_butte.pdf

[hirshey]

I know exactly where it is.. The signs say specifically "Discover Pass" required, I'm pretty sure. 

[bigtex]

I know exactly where it is.. The signs say specifically "Discover Pass" required, I'm pretty sure. 

All of the signs on DNR, WDFW, and Park lands say "Discover Pass" and are all the same signs. However, the signs at WDFW areas have some small writing which basically says you can use the WDFW pass as well.

Here is what the signs on WDFW areas look like: http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=85084.0;attach=161937

And this is what they look like on DNR and Park lands: http://media.thenewstribune.com/smedia/2011/11/12/20/39/1dDhNR.St.5.JPG?height=400&width=600

[hirshey]

Ooh tricksy. They fooled me; although I just used my WDFW pass and hiked anyways. 

[bigtex]

Ooh tricksy. They fooled me; although I just used my WDFW pass and hiked anyways. 

Yup you would have been 100% legal then since it's a WDFW area.

[uplandhunter870]

I know exactly where it is.. The signs say specifically "Discover Pass" required, I'm pretty sure. 

All of the signs on DNR, WDFW, and Park lands say "Discover Pass" and are all the same signs. However, the signs at WDFW areas have some small writing which basically says you can use the WDFW pass as well.

Here is what the signs on WDFW areas look like: http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=85084.0;attach=161937

And this is what they look like on DNR and Park lands: http://media.thenewstribune.com/smedia/2011/11/12/20/39/1dDhNR.St.5.JPG?height=400&width=600

and watch in another month or so when all the hang gliders and para sailers start showing up and jumping off the top of the butte i bet you could go up there and do a real quick survey and not half of them will have any of the accepted passes to "use" the land and yet none will be ticketed, so really whats the point

[hirshey]

I know exactly where it is.. The signs say specifically "Discover Pass" required, I'm pretty sure. 

All of the signs on DNR, WDFW, and Park lands say "Discover Pass" and are all the same signs. However, the signs at WDFW areas have some small writing which basically says you can use the WDFW pass as well.

Here is what the signs on WDFW areas look like: http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=85084.0;attach=161937

And this is what they look like on DNR and Park lands: http://media.thenewstribune.com/smedia/2011/11/12/20/39/1dDhNR.St.5.JPG?height=400&width=600

and watch in another month or so when all the hang gliders and para sailers start showing up and jumping off the top of the butte i bet you could go up there and do a real quick survey and not half of them will have any of the accepted passes to "use" the land and yet none will be ticketed, so really whats the point