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Offline wraithen

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upside down primers?
« on: April 05, 2012, 06:57:24 AM »
So I bought my house, moved in, set up man cave, set up harbor freight table, set up lyman reloading kit. I got clean brass and it's all prepped. I finally loaded primers and tonight I will start my first loads with varget.

My question is how dangerous is it to seat a primer upside down and is there a safe way to undo this mistake? I thought the first time I did it I had accidentally somehow loaded a primer in the chute upside down. I was pretty mad at myself, so I looked at each primer twice as I sent it under my ram to be seated and eventually had another upside down primer. WTH?! By the third one I figured out that the cup that holds the primer would sometimes catch a tiny bit on the shell holder as I brought the ram down. When this happened the spring that holds the walls up around the primer to cup it until it hits the brass made a ting sound. I figured out that the small upward movement of the spring bounced the primer and sometimes allowed it to flip. I even found some sitting in the cup sideways just waiting for me to try to get them to seat  :yike:

Now I have 4 shells with upside down primers installed. Just to be on the safe side I crimped the brass shut so I wouldn't accidentally use it. So how dangerous is it for the press to put that pressure on the upside down primer? Is there a safe way to pop the primer back out to still be able to reuse the primer and brass? I'm not sure I like lymans auto feeder anymore now.
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Re: upside down primers?
« Reply #1 on: April 05, 2012, 07:05:39 AM »
I have popped them out using the resizing die before.  I wear safety glasses BTW.  Or, you can just toss them, brass is pretty cheap. 

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Re: upside down primers?
« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2012, 07:25:14 AM »
Just push 'em out. I to wear safetly glasses while loading just in case. I would also say "push slowly"...never "smack" the primer in or out.

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Re: upside down primers?
« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2012, 07:25:35 AM »
I've deprimed lots of live primers with no detonations.  The key is to do it SLOWLY.  Primers are actually pretty stable, and it takes a quick strike to set them off.  Do not try to do it with a hammer and punch.  A friend of mine tried that, and it's a good thing he had thick calluses on his fingers!  :chuckle:

I only use an RCBS hand priming tool these days.  It's so much easier and faster than the old ram method.
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Re: upside down primers?
« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2012, 07:34:51 AM »
I've deprimed lots of live primers with no detonations.  The key is to do it SLOWLY.  Primers are actually pretty stable, and it takes a quick strike to set them off.  Do not try to do it with a hammer and punch.  A friend of mine tried that, and it's a good thing he had thick calluses on his fingers!  :chuckle:

I only use an RCBS hand priming tool these days.  It's so much easier and faster than the old ram method.
  Exactely.... I always do mine by hand ...yeah it takes longer but thats the way I always done it ... then check them before I set them in my shell holder before dumping powder into them...Like stated above , just use your full length sizing die and push it out .. :tup: :twocents:

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Re: upside down primers?
« Reply #5 on: April 05, 2012, 07:37:21 AM »
By the way.....have we seen a pic or two of the new set up?


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Re: upside down primers?
« Reply #6 on: April 05, 2012, 09:27:33 AM »
soak them in some wd 40, kroil.....atf, anything to inert them.

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Re: upside down primers?
« Reply #7 on: April 05, 2012, 11:23:56 AM »
How long of a soak would be considered very safe? I can just throw away spent primers right?

H20, no I don't have pics up of the new house nor the reloading setup. I still need to tweek things and get a little more ocd. I think I'm going to be putting up some shelves above my bench and use clamps to keep the press held in place. It's not an easy bench to use for this. I also think I'm going to remove the drawer underneath where my press is so I can access the nuts easier. Only problem is I have to remove the press to do that.

For you guys that are using the same priming system, is there a better way to get leverage to seat the primer? I've been putting my hip into it to get the primer as deep as I need to (just below flush.) I would prefer to be able to do this while sitting if possible.

Thanks a lot for the advice guys.
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Re: upside down primers?
« Reply #8 on: April 05, 2012, 12:03:02 PM »
I use a lyman press and the primer thing that is attached to it.  It shouldn't take a lot of pressure to get your primer seated properly.  Also, you do not need to soak those upside down primers to get them out, just push them out with the de-primer die in the press.  It takes a pretty good hit to set them off.
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Re: upside down primers?
« Reply #9 on: April 05, 2012, 01:59:56 PM »
just press them out with the resize die ive had a problem  :twocents:
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Re: upside down primers?
« Reply #10 on: April 05, 2012, 02:30:07 PM »
I used to run a loader that cranked out a few thousand rounds and hour.  Every few hours it would pop off a primer.  Made me jump every time but wasn't no big deal.  It will push out just fine for ya.  And if it did happen to pop in the press it aint going to do nothing but make ya jump.

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Re: upside down primers?
« Reply #11 on: April 06, 2012, 02:43:06 PM »
if you ever meet anyone who had to go have a primer anvil dug out of their leg......you'll soak em.

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Re: upside down primers?
« Reply #12 on: April 06, 2012, 02:44:05 PM »
a quick spritz of wd and a half an hour will make it all but impossible to ignite.

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Re: upside down primers?
« Reply #13 on: April 06, 2012, 02:50:13 PM »
Just take high countrys advice.  99.999% of the time there will be no problem, but why not make it 100% by taking the time to squirt a little WD40 down there. :dunno: :twocents:

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Re: upside down primers?
« Reply #14 on: April 06, 2012, 03:28:37 PM »
I have a whole primer under the skin of my middle finger where two fingers meet. It hurt a little but I never notice it anymore. The doctor said there was more chance of nerve damage removing it than leaving it there. So there it stays.
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