State helps protect livestock from wolves

[humanure]

Yeah well, that's never gonna happen. Might as well forget about it cuz theys here to stay. So now that we've established that the wolves will always be here, what are you gonna do? You at least have a wolf hunting season to look forward to to calm your madula oblungata down...

[humanure]

"Hunting and fishing is boring....Killing and catching is fun."

Is that really how you feel? It's statement's like that that make me question whether we evolved or DEvolved from monkey's...

[GrainfedMuley]

"Hunting and fishing is boring....Killing and catching is fun."

Is that really how you feel? It's statement's like that that make me question whether we evolved or DEvolved from monkey's...

Get a grip.....it's an efin joke     

[Special T]

Humanure, that is a great article about coyotes. I know people that use llamas to protect thier  cattle calfs from coyotes, and have seen a stopped coyote before. Those methods do work.... On coyotes... Dogs and llamas do do much for wolves. In fact any dog that is in wolves territory is a challenge.

The real fact of the matter is this. The stock of beef cannot currently meet demand. Wolves require less/no range land use and concentrates cattle. Feed lots will be the only real way to raise beef. The loss of very many cattle will take out any profit in Cheaper range grazing. Marginal to unproductive Farm land currently makes up range ground here in Wa. This creates more competition for food sources. Currently there is not real un-tapped farm ground. Nearly all possible farm ground is under production. Land left over is marginal requiring lots of water and/or has poor quality soil.

So, you preach co-habitation... Which is better? feed lots and pens, or range ground? Higher beef costs, or opening up new water sources to grow crops like hay to feed cattle in those pens?

[TWG2A]

Yeah well, that's never gonna happen. Might as well forget about it cuz theys here to stay. So now that we've established that the wolves will always be here, what are you gonna do? You at least have a wolf hunting season to look forward to to calm your madula oblungata down...

1) Yes it will.
2) No they won't
3) No we haven't
4) None of your business
5) Indeed, we do.

[humanure]

Humanure, that is a great article about coyotes. I know people that use llamas to protect thier  cattle calfs from coyotes, and have seen a stopped coyote before. Those methods do work.... On coyotes... Dogs and llamas do do much for wolves. In fact any dog that is in wolves territory is a challenge.

The real fact of the matter is this. The stock of beef cannot currently meet demand. Wolves require less/no range land use and concentrates cattle. Feed lots will be the only real way to raise beef. The loss of very many cattle will take out any profit in Cheaper range grazing. Marginal to unproductive Farm land currently makes up range ground here in Wa. This creates more competition for food sources. Currently there is not real un-tapped farm ground. Nearly all possible farm ground is under production. Land left over is marginal requiring lots of water and/or has poor quality soil.

So, you preach co-habitation... Which is better? feed lots and pens, or range ground? Higher beef costs, or opening up new water sources to grow crops like hay to feed cattle in those pens?

I'll be honest, thinking about all of this, everyone's special interests, ways of life, etc... there's going to have to be compromise on both sides. To be honest, if beef cannot meet the current demand... what in the hell does that say about our country, human populous, etc? I think that's a huge problem in of itself that needs to be over-hauled and dealt with, and not by increasing beef stock. I'm not even thinking about humananity vs. wildlife on that thought, I'm saying that we, the people(haha), need to take responsibility for this situation we've created for ourselves. We have to many fat ass' in this country, and they eat way to freakin much! I honestly think thats our biggest issue, currently. Because humanity is seriously so obese that it compromises our ability to let the wild have it's habitat... then what does that mean for the future?

[TWG2A]

Rockefeller and his clan are handling the beef issue.

http://simmental.org/site/

American Simmental Association, paid for by the Rockefellers, is genetically engineering our beef. 

Monsanto and Tyson are also involved.

Eugenics freaks and global elitists.  Kind of makes one warm and fuzzy, no?

I consume only organic, non-GMO locally raised beef. 

[humanure]

At least we agree on something.

Ok, I DO NOT partake in any of the occupy movements, but my friend linked this on my facebook the other day:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=246139152128041&set=a.182339481841342.43482.182336115175012&type=1&theater

[TWG2A]

They're so EVIL.

Thankfully, I know how to grow my own food, cook my own food and preserve my own food.  No fast food and no junk food allowed in my home.

No GMO and no chemicals.

[humanure]

Since the sentiment here is that measures aren't being taken to make things co-habitable for the hunting community, what are some of your idea's that could be pro-active in doing so? And please, i already know you want to shoot them as a measure, so lets move beyond that.

[TWG2A]

Montana's legislative body meets only once every two yesrs, and for only 90 days.  We successfully fought for the right to hunt wolves and we are aggressively going after them.

We also have what's commonly called "The Three SSS's", but that is beyond the point I want to make.

Those wolves are bad for our ecological system. They're wreaking havoc and they need to be treated as the predators that they are.  Bringing their numbers down to manageble is our goal.

And if we were to be concerned with the ecological balance here, we would have brought back the Timber Wolves, and not non-native canadian greys.  Our system is geared for timber wolves. Not those canadian greys. It cannot support them and they are causing some major damage.

But manure, I repeat that this is only a teeny, tiny piece of a MASSIVE scheme.  In order to understand it, one must inform themselves of Agenda 21.  Several counties here in Montana have signed that agreement, and if we are to preserve our Nation, Her Citizens and our environment, we MUST fight that diabolical scheme.  Please do yourself, and our Nation, a favor and study it. 

It's important.

[humanure]

Wow, it is so nice not to have to read whatever it is she is saying.

[BOWHUNTER45]

At least we agree on something.

Ok, I DO NOT partake in any of the occupy movements, but my friend linked this on my facebook the other day:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=246139152128041&set=a.182339481841342.43482.182336115175012&type=1&theater

humanure....you can gladly join my group on facebook ... ( citizens against the reintroduction of wolves in the US )

[humanure]

hahaha, I'm good!

[TWG2A]

At least we agree on something.

Ok, I DO NOT partake in any of the occupy movements, but my friend linked this on my facebook the other day:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=246139152128041&set=a.182339481841342.43482.182336115175012&type=1&theater

humanure....you can gladly join my group on facebook ... ( citizens against the reintroduction of wolves in the US )

I'd join you there, if I still had a facebook account.  Left them a while back....  Please feel free to forward any info you might want me to post on my blog.