Post by: wraithen on June 26, 2012, 08:58:13 PM
A.) Buy a savage through savagegunsmithing.com and have them do their thing for a total gun cost of about a grand?
Or
2.) Buy a tikka or some other rifle with the submoa guarentee?
Post by: shoot-em-dead on June 26, 2012, 09:04:01 PM
Post by: high country on June 26, 2012, 09:20:46 PM
Post by: buckfvr on June 26, 2012, 09:25:56 PM
Post by: wraithen on June 26, 2012, 09:28:44 PM
Post by: buckfvr on June 26, 2012, 09:30:18 PM
Post by: MuleySniper on June 26, 2012, 09:32:49 PM
Post by: buckfvr on June 26, 2012, 09:37:32 PM
Post by: wraithen on June 26, 2012, 09:45:04 PM
The front ring of the action, the face of the barrel locking nut, bolt locking lugs and the bolt face are precission machined. This effectively makes the entire action, recoil lug and barrel as if they were one uniform piece to maintain 100% concentricity with the chamber and bore. Accuracy is improved. Shot to shot consistency is improved.
The Savage synthetic and wood stocks have no glass bedding in them. Without glass bedding, the action can shift within the stock and cause that occasional flyer thus causing larger groups. We glass bed the recoil lug area and glass bed the area of the stock that holds the action. The tang and barrel of the action are checked to be sure there is no contact with the stock. The glass bedding holds the action firmly in the stock when the rifle is fired. It causes the action and stock to act as one.
On the synthetic stocks, if requested, we put glass bedding into the fore-end to stiffen up the fore-end. The reason we do this only on request is that it adds a little weight to the rifle; also there is an additional charge for it. This is referred to in our pricing as Flex-Stiffening.
Every little thing contributes to a rifles accuracy. A Rifle with everything in line, without movement in the stock, will be a more accurate rifle.
Presently turn around time is 8 to 10 weeks.We would be pleased to add you to our list of satisfied customers by accurizing your Rifles.
Best regards,
SavageGunsmithing.com
I like the fact that savage is nearly as universal as remington's when it comes to smiths that have tools for them. I really like that changing barrels is easier (read cheaper) I like that the tikka HAS to be a shooter when I get it, but I'm not sure of the support that tikka has, just the fact that everyone loves them.
buckfvr. I tend to order budsgunshop.com
Man, I'm really not trying to throw out a bunch of companies on here. :sry:
Post by: wraithen on June 26, 2012, 09:45:55 PM
Post by: jaymark6655 on June 26, 2012, 09:57:42 PM
Post by: wraithen on June 26, 2012, 11:12:33 PM
Post by: FC on June 26, 2012, 11:23:38 PM
Post by: wraithen on June 26, 2012, 11:27:19 PM
I would troll on the campfire and set the hook when the right stick trips your trigger. I can't fathom shelling a grand on a savage.....unless it was sporting about $700 worth of scope.
I'm sorry but I have absolutely no idea what the bolded part means. I'm actually a transplant so maybe it's a local thing? :dunno:
Post by: high country on June 27, 2012, 05:20:09 AM
Post by: Jason on June 27, 2012, 06:20:15 AM
Post by: buckfvr on June 27, 2012, 06:31:51 AM
I think once you get into an accu-stock, you step above any of the others that are for the most part not bedded, or pillar bedded at most. Savages full length aluminum bedding block is where it all starts.
And Wraithen, whats not to like about a 7mm Rem Mag ???? :tup:
Post by: Huntbear on June 27, 2012, 06:37:48 AM
I would troll on the campfire and set the hook when the right stick trips your trigger. I can't fathom shelling a grand on a savage.....unless it was sporting about $700 worth of scope.
I'm sorry but I have absolutely no idea what the bolded part means. I'm actually a transplant so maybe it's a local thing? :dunno:
Means lurk on 24campfire.com, and act when you see the gun you want pop up for sale in their classifieds... Unless I am completely out in a different ballpark here....
Post by: Biggerhammer on June 27, 2012, 08:11:55 AM
I have picked them up when they go on sale for 339.00 just for the action, several of those actions are at Benchmark barrels right now.
Post by: Miles on June 27, 2012, 08:35:27 AM
Post by: Biggerhammer on June 27, 2012, 09:17:58 AM
Option # 2
Only thing I would use a frikn Tikka for is a jack pipe for a HighLifter jack and then I would leave it in the ditch so it didn't stink up my truck. So the next guy scrounging for what they THOUGHT was a rifle could pick it up and tote the pile of junk around for awhile untill he figured out what a big heap of CHIT it was.
I feel the same way about Barnes bullets, they just need to make one of those pieces of CHIT long enough for a jack handle.
Post by: Huntbear on June 27, 2012, 10:57:19 AM
Ok, so I managed to smuggle 1k out of my marriage. What I want to know is which route to go for my new 7mm rem mag. Do I
A.) Buy a savage through savagegunsmithing.com and have them do their thing for a total gun cost of about a grand?
Or
2.) Buy a tikka or some other rifle with the submoa guarentee?
Option #2 then spend the rest on glass.... Buying a Tikka will leave enough over to buy one of those fancy Leupold scopes with the turrets for Bullet Drop... might come in handy with a 7 mag if you are shooting mule deer at 500-600 yards...
Post by: wraithen on June 27, 2012, 12:40:27 PM
Post by: FC on June 27, 2012, 12:44:23 PM
Option # 2
Only thing I would use a frikn Tikka for is a jack pipe for a HighLifter jack and then I would leave it in the ditch so it didn't stink up my truck. So the next guy scrounging for what they THOUGHT was a rifle could pick it up and tote the pile of junk around for awhile untill he figured out what a big heap of CHIT it was.
Do you feel this way about Tikka due to the fact that you spend thousands on a rifle to get it to shoot as well as an out-of-the-box tikka? Just curious.
Post by: buckhorn2 on June 27, 2012, 12:46:43 PM
Post by: Bigshooter on June 27, 2012, 01:24:19 PM
Option # 2
Only thing I would use a frikn Tikka for is a jack pipe for a HighLifter jack and then I would leave it in the ditch so it didn't stink up my truck. So the next guy scrounging for what they THOUGHT was a rifle could pick it up and tote the pile of junk around for awhile untill he figured out what a big heap of CHIT it was.
I feel the same way about Barnes bullets, they just need to make one of those pieces of CHIT long enough for a jack handle.
:yeah:
Go with the savage. There are some die hard tikka guys out there (not sure why) that love tikka. But imo they are junk.
Post by: Miles on June 27, 2012, 01:27:39 PM
Option # 2
Only thing I would use a frikn Tikka for is a jack pipe for a HighLifter jack and then I would leave it in the ditch so it didn't stink up my truck. So the next guy scrounging for what they THOUGHT was a rifle could pick it up and tote the pile of junk around for awhile untill he figured out what a big heap of CHIT it was.
Do you feel this way about Tikka due to the fact that you spend thousands on a rifle to get it to shoot as well as an out-of-the-box tikka? Just curious.
:chuckle:
Post by: JohnVH on June 27, 2012, 01:47:07 PM
Option # 2
Only thing I would use a frikn Tikka for is a jack pipe for a HighLifter jack and then I would leave it in the ditch so it didn't stink up my truck. So the next guy scrounging for what they THOUGHT was a rifle could pick it up and tote the pile of junk around for awhile untill he figured out what a big heap of CHIT it was.
Do you feel this way about Tikka due to the fact that you spend thousands on a rifle to get it to shoot as well as an out-of-the-box tikka? Just curious.
Pretty much! Those that hate the Tikka are ignorant. Do they have the best finish in the world? No, but they will outshoot anything else in their class, and those that cost alot more! After getting one, I want to change all over to them, light, accurate, affordable, why not?
Savages are good shooters also. But I love the light stainless tikka
Post by: Biggerhammer on June 27, 2012, 03:13:22 PM
Post by: JohnVH on June 27, 2012, 03:16:07 PM
:puke: Tikka/Barnes.
Lol. I expected more from you. Heck, I can even get Barnes touching holes out of my tikka.
Post by: FC on June 27, 2012, 03:21:31 PM
:puke: Tikka/Barnes.
Lol. I expected more from you. Heck, I can even get Barnes touching holes out of my tikka.
I haven't tried them in my tikka yet but I did pick up a box for it.
Post by: JohnVH on June 27, 2012, 03:35:31 PM
:puke: Tikka/Barnes.
Lol. I expected more from you. Heck, I can even get Barnes touching holes out of my tikka.
I haven't tried them in my tikka yet but I did pick up a box for it.
Youll be happy, granted I went from an M77 that shot 1.5"ish groups to my tikka that shot .75" groups, then my handloaded barnes TTSX brought that down to holes touching.
Post by: Biggerhammer on June 27, 2012, 03:39:58 PM
:puke: Tikka/Barnes.
Lol. I expected more from you. Heck, I can even get Barnes touching holes out of my tikka.
I don't take it personal, I can care less what junk other people tote around the hills. My only concern is the junk I drag around.
Post by: JohnVH on June 27, 2012, 03:42:04 PM
Post by: Biggerhammer on June 27, 2012, 03:46:36 PM
http://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/4935450/1 (http://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/4935450/1)
Guess I'm not the only one that thinks they SUCK!!! :tup:
Post by: JohnVH on June 27, 2012, 03:55:15 PM
Why do so many think that Tikka's suck?
http://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/4935450/1 (http://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/4935450/1)
Guess I'm not the only one that thinks they SUCK!!! :tup:
no good info there either, main complaints are its too accurate, and has a plastic stock. whaaaaa. haha. More for me!
Post by: Biggerhammer on June 27, 2012, 04:05:49 PM
Why do so many think that Tikka's suck?
http://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/4935450/1 (http://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/4935450/1)
Guess I'm not the only one that thinks they SUCK!!! :tup:
no good info there either, main complaints are its too accurate, and has a plastic stock. whaaaaa. haha. More for me!
Some only see what they want to see, they don't listen and wait to talk. You must learn to read between the lines. It is all to clear, some day you will crawl over to my side of the fence and hang your head in shame and only then will you understand your true denial of the fact that TIKKA'S SUCK!!! :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: JohnVH on June 27, 2012, 04:07:04 PM
Why do so many think that Tikka's suck?
http://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/4935450/1 (http://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/4935450/1)
Guess I'm not the only one that thinks they SUCK!!! :tup:
no good info there either, main complaints are its too accurate, and has a plastic stock. whaaaaa. haha. More for me!
Some only see what they want to see, they don't listen and wait to talk. You must learn to read between the lines. It is all to clear, some day you will crawl over to my side of the fence and hang your head in shame and only then will you understand your true denial of the fact that TIKKA'S SUCK!!! :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Thatll be a while, haha. Until hell freezes over lets keep drinking whiskey, :chuckle:
Post by: jaymark6655 on June 27, 2012, 04:41:14 PM
Too accurate, now that's funny.
Post by: coachcw on June 27, 2012, 04:53:56 PM
Post by: FC on June 27, 2012, 05:02:33 PM
Chuck Hawks finding the tikka's to be inaccurate only discredits him and apparently his shooting ability.
With all of the talk about ugly guns and using it to justify buying something else it reminds me of the way women shop. :twocents:
Post by: yorketransport on June 27, 2012, 05:23:51 PM
I've put together sub .5 MOA Savages for less than $500 when using a Criterion barrel. Bump it up to $650 and you can have the action gone over by Shap Shooter Supply. $750 and a little patience will get you a full custom barrel which should shoot in the .3 MOA range. You could probably have the gun to want assembled and ready to shoot in less than two weeks.
I'm partial to Savages, but if you want to just buy a turn key rifle, they don't offer anything too interesting in 7mm mag. There was a long range hunter in 6.5x284 close on the ballistics.
Andrew
Post by: JimmyHoffa on June 27, 2012, 05:34:00 PM
Post by: Biggerhammer on June 27, 2012, 05:56:06 PM
Post by: buckfvr on June 27, 2012, 06:01:14 PM
If I had $1k to spend on a gun, without optics, I wouldn't buy any production gun, I would build a semi custom.Im all ears.....detail out how you can build a gun with an after market barrel for 500 bucks, or even 650......
I've put together sub .5 MOA Savages for less than $500 when using a Criterion barrel. Bump it up to $650 and you can have the action gone over by Shap Shooter Supply. $750 and a little patience will get you a full custom barrel which should shoot in the .3 MOA range. You could probably have the gun to want assembled and ready to shoot in less than two weeks.
I'm partial to Savages, but if you want to just buy a turn key rifle, they don't offer anything too interesting in 7mm mag. There was a long range hunter in 6.5x284 close on the ballistics.
Andrew
Post by: Miles on June 27, 2012, 06:08:40 PM
Why do so many think that Tikka's suck?
http://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/4935450/1 (http://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/4935450/1)
Guess I'm not the only one that thinks they SUCK!!! :tup:
no good info there either, main complaints are its too accurate, and has a plastic stock. whaaaaa. haha. More for me!
Some only see what they want to see, they don't listen and wait to talk.
HOLY *censored*, somebody hand this guy a mirror.
Post by: Biggerhammer on June 27, 2012, 06:26:14 PM
Why do so many think that Tikka's suck?
http://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/4935450/1 (http://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/4935450/1)
Guess I'm not the only one that thinks they SUCK!!! :tup:
no good info there either, main complaints are its too accurate, and has a plastic stock. whaaaaa. haha. More for me!
Some only see what they want to see, they don't listen and wait to talk.
HOLY *censored*, somebody hand this guy a mirror.
Miles, you been smoking that stuff again? :chuckle: Tikka humper!
Post by: elkhunter00 on June 27, 2012, 07:19:10 PM
Post by: Huntbear on June 27, 2012, 07:20:38 PM
I have a Tikka T3 in 300 WSM. It shoots just fine at 500 yards. The Elk don't like them. Dropped right when it was hit.
I want this in the lite hunter stainless version... may be my next gun purchase.... I love the Sako/Tikka rifles...
Post by: elkhunter00 on June 27, 2012, 07:25:13 PM
I have a Tikka T3 in 300 WSM. It shoots just fine at 500 yards. The Elk don't like them. Dropped right when it was hit.
I want this in the lite hunter stainless version... may be my next gun purchase.... I love the Sako/Tikka rifles...
Thats what it is. I love remingtons, but you can't beat the price to quality ratio of the Tikka or at least you couldn't. Don't know what there going for now.
Post by: wraithen on June 27, 2012, 08:19:14 PM
If I had $1k to spend on a gun, without optics, I wouldn't buy any production gun, I would build a semi custom.Im all ears.....detail out how you can build a gun with an after market barrel for 500 bucks, or even 650......
I've put together sub .5 MOA Savages for less than $500 when using a Criterion barrel. Bump it up to $650 and you can have the action gone over by Shap Shooter Supply. $750 and a little patience will get you a full custom barrel which should shoot in the .3 MOA range. You could probably have the gun to want assembled and ready to shoot in less than two weeks.
I'm partial to Savages, but if you want to just buy a turn key rifle, they don't offer anything too interesting in 7mm mag. There was a long range hunter in 6.5x284 close on the ballistics.
Andrew
:yeah:
Post by: yorketransport on June 27, 2012, 08:40:28 PM
Andrew
Post by: yorketransport on June 27, 2012, 09:43:38 PM
Andrew