Post by: wackum on June 27, 2012, 08:17:26 PM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on June 27, 2012, 08:20:13 PM
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Post by: sebek556 on June 27, 2012, 09:22:10 PM
ar-14 in 22-250
Post by: shoot-em-dead on June 27, 2012, 09:29:11 PM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on June 27, 2012, 09:34:00 PM
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Post by: wackum on June 27, 2012, 09:45:39 PM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on June 27, 2012, 09:51:37 PM
For me: I would atleast build your lower and then you can get a ready to drop in upper. It can save you a good chunk of change and you get more of a custom fit gun that way.
Post by: sebek556 on June 27, 2012, 10:02:38 PM
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Post by: Caseyd on June 27, 2012, 10:27:52 PM
The lower can be put together in about 30 minutes.
Post by: wackum on June 28, 2012, 04:44:07 AM
Post by: Heredoggydoggy on June 28, 2012, 01:26:45 PM
:tup: lots and lots of great ar companies out there to choose from, Olympic arms, rock river, dmps, and lots more. or you could be bold do some research and build your own. My next weapon will be a ar-15 platform shooting a 6.5 :chuckle:
Ya mean like this one?
Post by: sebek556 on June 30, 2012, 09:08:40 PM
Post by: Heredoggydoggy on June 30, 2012, 09:17:07 PM
:chuckle: you need to bring that one over so I can make sure it functions properly :chuckle:
I will--as soon as I get all the parts together. Actually, it's a wildcat based on the 6.5 grendel called the 20 LBC. 6.5 Grendel necked down to .20 cal.
My 450 Bushmaster is pretty much like it:
Post by: carpsniperg2 on June 30, 2012, 09:19:42 PM
Post by: huntnphool on June 30, 2012, 09:23:12 PM
Post by: Heredoggydoggy on June 30, 2012, 09:38:35 PM
Are those lasered on or decals?
They're laser-engraved. There's a laser engraving shop here in Wenatchee that will put anything you want on an upper or lower, or anything else you want. I put the clip art on a thumb drive and took it to her and she transferred it to her computer, mounted my piece in the machine, outlined it for my approval, and Zap! For the mags, I told her I wanted Old English fonts saying "GRENDEL" and she brought it up on her computer. She suggested staying back from the deep groove in the mags in case the laser would go out of focus there. It's permanent and her prices are very reasonable. As long as the surface isn't reflective, anything can be engraved. :tup:
Post by: carpsniperg2 on July 01, 2012, 12:20:45 AM
Are those lasered on or decals?
They're laser-engraved. There's a laser engraving shop here in Wenatchee that will put anything you want on an upper or lower, or anything else you want. I put the clip art on a thumb drive and took it to her and she transferred it to her computer, mounted my piece in the machine, outlined it for my approval, and Zap! For the mags, I told her I wanted Old English fonts saying "GRENDEL" and she brought it up on her computer. She suggested staying back from the deep groove in the mags in case the laser would go out of focus there. It's permanent and her prices are very reasonable. As long as the surface isn't reflective, anything can be engraved. :tup:
That is very very cool! I have seen a few youtube video's with them doing the laser art on guns. I might just have to look her up. I have a couple more builds to finish up first. Could you send me a pm with her contact info? thanks!!!
Post by: Blacklab on July 01, 2012, 06:59:05 PM
Post by: CAMPMEAT on July 01, 2012, 07:11:56 PM
Post by: Heredoggydoggy on July 01, 2012, 08:55:02 PM
I just bought a Rock River 450 SOCOM complete upper for my Rock River. What would be a good engraving to put on that badboy ? Gimmie some ideas if ya don't mind.
Well, it either depends on what you intend to shoot it with, or a theme. For my Grendel (20 LBC, but trademark rights prevent it from being called a Grendel) I chose the Grendel creature because I've always loved the Beowulf Legend. On the left side of the upper I had "20 LBC" in block letters engraved to identify the caliber. The Hog engraving on the 450 Buhmaster is what I figured the caliber would be ideal for. The upper is already engraved "450 Bushmaster" from the manufacturer. I scanned a coyote from a magazine ad and cleaned it up for putting on one of my .223s, but haven't yet:
Post by: CastleRocker on July 16, 2012, 10:35:16 PM
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Well, it either depends on what you intend to shoot it with, or a theme. For my Grendel (20 LBC, but trademark rights prevent it from being called a Grendel) [/quote
Well, it either depends on what you intend to shoot it with, or a theme. For my Grendel (20 LBC, but trademark rights prevent it from being called a Grendel) [/quote
Just a point of information. I think Alexander Arms relenquished their trademark claim on "Grendel" back in February.
Also, just as a tidbit of info; years ago there was an old gunsmith in Kelso had an old Martini single shot that he had re-barreled in .20 Russian, that would be about the same thing as a 20 LBC, (or Grendel, or PPC, etc.) Don't recall how it shot, all his guns were sold after he passed away.
Although I admire Bill Alexander for his drive and commitment to market the 6.5 Grendel, one has to remember, Mr. Alexander did not really "invent" the 6.5 Grendel, he just re-named the 6.5 PPC and sent it to SAAMI to make it a standard cartridge.
They are all based off the 220 Russian case that's been around for over 50 years, and if I remember correctly, the 220 was based off the the 7.62X39. Not for sure on that, but I do know they share the same case head dimentions.
Post by: CastleRocker on July 16, 2012, 10:42:12 PM
To answer the build it or buy it question... I'd say build it. Buy a good quality wrench, vise blocks, and a DVD. Then shop for parts.
If you must by it, watch the "Bargain Bin" at CMMG. I have bought a couple uppers and one complete rifle from them, that were all cheaper than I could build them.
Got my last two antelope with a DTech upper in 25 WSSM, my wife got her speed goat with her 6.5 Grendel.
Looking at building a 20 Practical, or a 6 DTI next.
AR's are like eating chips...you can't stop at one!
Post by: Heredoggydoggy on July 17, 2012, 07:26:54 AM
The Grendel is based on a lot of older cartridgeslike the 7.62x39, but it takes what is called a "class II" bolt. The 7.62 bolt chambers the round, but won't lock up. Waiting for another bolt now. That's all I lack to get mine up and running. I have 5 other ARs, so it's not like I don't have anything to shoot! :chuckle:
Post by: Sidewinder on July 18, 2012, 07:07:01 PM
Post by: Heredoggydoggy on July 18, 2012, 08:45:49 PM
Heredoggydoggy, I sent you a PM. Please send me some information about the woman doing your engraving. I really like how yours turned out.
PM sent. She really does nice work. And you can watch the laser do its thing! :tup:
Post by: Sidewinder on July 18, 2012, 09:01:41 PM